New project, maybe?

fiver

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air brakes mandate a CDL.
in wyoming they go off bridge weight.
if a few of our trailers had been 3' longer they wouldn't have been considered over weight.
course you couldn't have jacked them around half the mountain turns or wiggled them around on any of the postage stamp sized locations either.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
I let my CDL go last time I renewed the drivers license. First time in decades without it, feels a bit strange but I'll not need it again.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
not having it let's you drink twice as much before driving now.
that's the only benefit of having a CDL,,, unless you count 10% off at the 'pron' store as a benefit too.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
we had to have one for our 1 ton pickup's if they were pulling a tiny 2 wheel trailer.
no way any of us was gonna stop, but [shrug]
You had to have a CDL for a 1 ton truck and little trailer? What were the GVWR's? Maybe it's a state thing? Far as I know, and I knew this stuff good, no CDL until you exceed 26L. Now, having to have DOT# and stuff like that is a different thing, that's a commercial motor vehicle, and a one ton PU in commerce would be easy to fall under those rules.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
In commerce transportation. You can have a class A with doubles , triples , taker etc without a CDL. You can also have a class C CDL .

Nevada flip flopped back and forth between between 10,000# and towing 16,000 and 16,000 towing 10,000 , but stuck with 26,000 max GVW for class C . B I want to say was 3 axles up to 39,999 and class A from there up .
Unless I misunderstand you entirely, no- you cannot have a Class A license (a CDL) for hauling doubles, triples, tankers, etc without having a CDL.
 

fiver

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we had DOT#'s and IFTA stickers on almost everything.
maybe not the little company cars, tahoe's, or exploders, but everything else had them.
lot of our dually's had placards because they would be used to haul oxidizers, and occasionally a little bit of nuclear placarded tools, or explosives.

we had more rules and regulations than you could shake a stick at, and they changed every time you went into another state.
can't drive this on Sunday, can't cross a bridge unless your dead center and under 25mph., one place your over weight one your not, flags here and here are fine, then suddenly 50' later you need another set.
there's no continuity.
 

JustJim

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Say, could all you current or former CDL-holders explain something for me? Why is, when a semi switches lanes to pass, they accellerate, change lanes, and slow down?
 

Cadillac Jeff

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If you mean when passing another semi passing guy just got out in the bad air &has to build up speed to get around + man that load is heavy!
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Say, could all you current or former CDL-holders explain something for me? Why is, when a semi switches lanes to pass, they accellerate, change lanes, and slow down?
I can't speak to other States ...and this isn't CDL or Semi-truck specific... In MN, a driver is allowed to exceed the speed limit by 10 MPH during passing. So as to make the passing event quicker and most likely more safer.
 

fiver

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some of the trucks on the road are governed.
it's real fun passing in one of those, you gotta basically pass like your at talledaga.
suck up to the guy then side draft him and hope you got enough grunt to get on him before a hill comes up.
sometimes it really sucks when he has a slightly lighter load and you have to find that out the hard way then work him over again for another 10 miles until you can down hill him to get around.
it really blows when you finally get past him halfway across some state and leave him in your dust, then 50 miles later he rolls right past you going up a mountain.
 

JustJim

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Coming out of the air behind the leading truck fits with what I've been seeing lately. It is annoying as all get out, particularly since truck drivers checking to make sure the lane is empty before changing lanes seems to be a thing of the past.

The trucks with governors have been causing problems for years. I had one run me into the median years ago, then spend >35 miles trying to "pass" the other truck before breaking and taking the exit. Since it was my exit, I got to see the name on the side of the truck. The next day I stopped by to find out what was going on, and they explained the situation with governors. Since then when I see that company's trucks, I arbitrarily pass them.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Nothing like going over Snoqualmie Pass into Seattle; truck in the right lane going 12 mph, second lane 13 miles an hour, third lane 15 miles an hour and fourth lane 16 mph for the whole 7 miles. The days of truckers being "knights of the highway" has been dead for years. IMHO
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
we had DOT#'s and IFTA stickers on almost everything.
maybe not the little company cars, tahoe's, or exploders, but everything else had them.
lot of our dually's had placards because they would be used to haul oxidizers, and occasionally a little bit of nuclear placarded tools, or explosives.

we had more rules and regulations than you could shake a stick at, and they changed every time you went into another state.
can't drive this on Sunday, can't cross a bridge unless your dead center and under 25mph., one place your over weight one your not, flags here and here are fine, then suddenly 50' later you need another set.
there's no continuity.

The HazMat stuff shouldn't have changed, that's Federal. A DOT# doesn't mean you need a CDL.

I've run into too many people that tell me horror stories to think they are all making it up. What SHOULD be would make life easier for everyone. But, all it takes is one local yokel who thinks he knows what he doing to mess the whole thing up. We spent an awful lot of time just trying to keep up with the changes .gov made, and more time trying to keep our local truckers on the right side of the system. And in the end, we found out the trucking industry creates a lot of it's own problems.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Unless I misunderstand you entirely, no- you cannot have a Class A license (a CDL) for hauling doubles, triples, tankers, etc without having a CDL.
Very rural wide open state with many ranches that trucked water around . They had/have a farm/fire/military endorsement. I drove an F900 with 2000 gallons of water and air brakes no CDL. It clearly meets the tanker and B requirements.

They allowed the operation of vehicles with higher gross weights than 16/10/26,000 as long as it didn't exceed "on the scales now" 16/10/26,000 . The book gross of the F600 is 18,999 with 9,999 towing max combined GVW on our old B160 IHC was 29,999 right on the door post next to the 193 BHP @4400 RPM . It sounded like it was going to start swapping holes over 3,000 whether it was push or pull .....
 

fiver

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then there's the fun of per axle weight.
nuthin better than trying to figure out how to move 32 tonnes [yeah tonnes] forward 3"s in the parking lot with no way to contact the crane company your hauling it for.