New Rossi lever load...

[shootnlead]

I have a Rossi 92 16" in .357 that is about the most delightful firearm that I own. This little gun will shoot any of my cast bullets as well as I am capable of shooting. I have always shot the 135gr, 160gr and 180gr NOE WFN as these have supplanted all of the swc's that I used to shoot...358156, 358477, 358429...all of them. So, the other day, I got the idea to try some of the Lyman 75gr wadcutters that I cast, in the Rossi. I was blown away with how well it shot them and how much fun it was...a great small game load or plinking load.

This really shocked me as I have quit using them in the revolvers because they all shoot it so low. Looks like I will have heat that old mold up, again.

 

[Intheshop]

Sounds like fun.What are you sizing to?

 

[Ben]

shootnlead,

What is your load with the lightweight wadcutter, if you're willing to share it ?
Does it also shoot low in your rifle ?

 

[shootnlead]

Sounds like fun.What are you sizing to?

These were sized .358.

 

[shootnlead]

shootnlead,

What is your load with the lightweight wadcutter, if you're willing to share it ?
Does it also shoot low in your rifle ?

Ben, these were loaded with 5grs of Bullseye in a .357 case. Now, I have not chrono'd them, but I am gonna try to do that one day this week. The Lyman manual has a load for a 90gr bullet that goes from 7.5gr to 9.5grs...so, it appears that it can be bumped up a good bit. It just shoots so well with the 5grs that I doubt that I will mess with pushing it up since it will do everything that I want to do with it, with this load.

 

[Ben]

Does it shoot low in the rifle ?

 

[Brad]

I would love to have my Marlin shoot wadcutters. It feeds them fine, it just sprays them all over the target. Then again it doesn't like swc or most rnfp either.

If it wasn't for the MP 359640 that rifle would have been gone a while back.

 

[Ben]

Brad,

Is it the throat ? ?

 

[shootnlead]

Does it shoot low in the rifle ?

Sorry...forgot to answer that.

At this point, with limited shooting, it shoots to about the same point that the 135's do...which is the bullet that I shoot the most of. And, the good thing about the rifle is...elevation adjustments with that crude buchhorn rear, are very easy to make. Now, my shooting with this has been limited to about 40yds...at more distance, it might be more noticeable. If I start shooting if farther...if I notice it is a little low, I will probably bump that powder charge up a little to see if that will take care of it.

 

[Brad]

I personally think so. I think the throat, if it exists, is extremely sharp. I have looked around for a throater. I think that would make a huge difference. Being the cheapskate I am I just haven't pulled the trigger.

The rifle does have an obvious flaw in one land about 1/3 of the way down the bore. I never contacted Marlin as I don't know if I would ever see the rifle again! I got the rifle about the time "the move" was happening and who know what Marlin was prepared to fix.

 

[shootnlead]

I had never really shot this little wadcutter at anything but targets, with the revolvers. So, I was not real sure how it would work on an animal. But, coming from the rifle...it rolls vermin with pretty good authority...more than I would have thought.

 

[Ben]

I personally think so. I think the throat, if it exists, is extremely sharp. I have looked around for a throater. I think that would make a huge difference. Being the cheapskate I am I just haven't pulled the trigger.

The rifle does have an obvious flaw in one land about 1/3 of the way down the bore. I never contacted Marlin as I don't know if I would ever see the rifle again! I got the rifle about the time "the move" was happening and who know what Marlin was prepared to fix.

You're pretty good on that kind of thing.
Correcting that throat , for you , wouldn't be a very big challenge.

Ben

 

[LongPoint]

I wonder if a .35 pistol throater could be used to correct the throat issues on the 38/357 leverguns provided the proper guide bushing was used?

Marvin

 

[Brad]

A pistol throater is likely designed for revolver cylinder throats. It is designed to cut a straight section, not a taper. For a lever action we need a tapered throat.

 

[LongPoint]

No, a cylinder throat reamer is used to correct a revolver cylinder throat. A pistol throat reamer creates a throat or corrects the throat in a pistol barrel. I had to slightly extend the throat in a couple 9mm barrels to accept the NOE .357-135 RF bullet when crimped in the top groove.
Marvin

 

[Brad]

Then that reamer would work.

 

[freebullet]

The Manson 35 pistol throating reamer will do it. Revolver cylinder throats require a different reamer.

It will work on 9mm, 38 spcl, 357 mag. The Manson I have has the bushing built right on the end.

The only problem I forsee is a tap handle ain't guna fit in the lever receiver. Fortunately the Manson has the other end threaded inside for such applications. So you'd need to find a bolt long enough & use a nut to lock it down so use can turn the reamer outside the receiver. Not to tough to do.

 

[Doughty]

I picked up this reamer at a gun show a few years ago. I used it to throat a 9mm single shot rifle. It has a .350 diameter pilot and then tapers up to .358. I don't know what the exact angle is. The length of the long leg of the right triangle is about .218 long. Brad if you, or anyone else, would like to borrow this, just send me an address and I will get it off to you. It will only cost you the cost of returning it to me.

 

[Brad]

The Manson 35 pistol throating reamer will do it. Revolver cylinder throats require a different reamer.

It will work on 9mm, 38 spcl, 357 mag. The Manson I have has the bushing built right on the end.

The only problem I forsee is a tap handle ain't guna fit in the lever receiver. Fortunately the Manson has the other end threaded inside for such applications. So you'd need to find a bolt long enough & use a nut to lock it down so use can turn the reamer outside the receiver. Not to tough to do.

Any idea what the threads are? Easy enough to turn threads on a hunk of steel rod and file a square on the end for a wrench.

 

[Brad]

I picked up this reamer at a gun show a few years ago. I used it to throat a 9mm single shot rifle. It has a .350 diameter pilot and then tapers up to .358. I don't know what the exact angle is. The length of the long leg of the right triangle is about .218 long. Brad if you, or anyone else, would like to borrow this, just send me an address and I will get it off to you. It will only cost you the cost of returning it to me.

Thanks for the offer. I will see if freebullets reamer will work first, his is local!