Powder and primers today

[fiver]

IMO it's being made on Remington equipment, but it's a high end target load.

there was a lot of talk about it a few months back and then everything went dark.
it could be a good STS type hull, only purple, which would be a good thing, but I have a feeling at 15 bucks a box [my thoughts on the price] it'll be a while before I see any around here.

Federal was supposed to release some of the shells and do a press release on exactly what it was at the American Grand.
I heard a few guys did get some of the shells, but that's the last I heard.

 

[L Ross]

Stopped by my favorite reloading supply store. I haven't been there in a long time, probably more'n a year. Shelves mostly bare. They haven't gotten anything from Alliant in 2 years. They ordered $260,000 from their suppliers in Spring. Eventually they received about $10,000 worth. The counterman told me it would have fit in the trunk of a car.

I said, "I thought things were starting to get better." I got a one word reply, "Nope."

 

[RicinYakima]

So much is depending upon where you live. Components are showing up here in the PNW except for loading 9MM Luger and 223.

 

[richhodg66]

I was in Wichita yesterday and Cabelas had primers in stock. About twice what they were going for before the run on them, but there were some. I didn't pick any up.

 

[Jeff H]

So much is depending upon where you live. Components are showing up here in the PNW except for loading 9MM Luger and 223.

I'd have to drive about an hour to get to a store which would have carried primers when they could GET primers.

 

[RicinYakima]

I'd have to drive about an hour to get to a store which would have carried primers when they could GET primers.

The drive depends upon where you live. I have to drive an hour to have morning coffee with my friends. LGS gets some Accurate powder and some Federal primers. The nearest at one time full service store, Sportsman Warehouse, is 85 miles away. The Cabela's Outback store basically sells shoes, clothes and fishing stuff.

 

[pcmacd]

Was on my way to go to Brownells this morning as they had a couple of powders I am short on. I started to reload shotgun again and i was out of almost everything. As i was headed west on I80 i figured i would stop in Iowa City at Scheels. I couldn't believe it. They had 209a federal primers. They had at least 6-7 federal gold metal match LRM. Regular large rifle and mag. There were 2 1000 round boxes of CCI br4 Sr.

They had Longshot and hs6 in 1b cans that I needed. So stopping made it I did not have to drive another 100 miles to Brownells. They had a bunch of VV and a bunch of the accurate powders.

So I drove to the other side of the town where there was a Fin & Feather store. They had almost everything from Hodgeon except Varget. Almost everything Winchester and some accurate. And they had Cheditte 209 cx2000 primers. I grabbed the last 1K box. The powders were normal price at both places. The federal 209 primers were $6.99/100 and the chedittes were $59.99/1K. So not as bad as other places i seen in the last few months.

Now I don't have to swage primer holes in all my cheditte hulls to make a Win 209 fit them.

I also picked up 100 rounds of 2 3/4 slugs for a few relatives that need ammo for deer season next month. Hope they work, they are Sterling 1oz rifled slugs. The only other slugs I seen were some win tac fracturing slugs. $17.99/5! These were $7.99/10.

I used to buy Winchester primers of any flavor except shotgun for $40/5K CASE (five boxes of 1000 per case) at the Los Angeles gun show in Pomona, CA years ago, before the Pinkos on the Shitty Council shut it down.

This was the late eighties and early nineties.

Still got bunches of those left.

• What a difference a few decades makes?

We had component scares in the past

When that passed?

• I bought perhaps 50 or 60 thousand various primers on a market that was flooded with them.

I guess I have generally been forward looking my entire life.

• Buy stuff you know you will use while the price is low.
  
  
• I'll let my heirs deal with the bonanza, should there be one?

 

[358156 hp]

Well, I visited Scheels again today. They were still low on powder stock, but there was pretty much something available for most people. If you don't mind paying the prices for VV. They were well stocked on Hornady bullets, not perfect, but pretty good. I bought four boxes of jacketed handgun bullets for the novelty of it. Two of the boxes were 158 gr XTP, for 38/357, the other two were 185 gr XTP for 45 ACP. They were even having a sale on the XTPs, 20% off. They really are trying to make this work. I forgot to ask about primers though since I don't really need any. I didn't need the bullets either, I normally make all my own bullets anymore except for 30-06

 

[Mitty38]

Our local place got some primers in fulfilled his customers orders at oldish prices. and can no longer get them. I got 500 small pistol Magnum Federal from him for 38 bucks.
Running low on even my rifle primers.
But I have been able to get thru him 9 mm loaded ammo for 17 a box local. And 22lr 500 rounds for 32 bucks. So keeps me shooting while scrounging supplies.

The other places around here for small pistol primers are within 25 miles of my p!ace. Fin feather Fur and Dunham's.

They both limit 1 pack they get a few 1000 cases but those seam to be handed out to employees, before the shelving. From which you can buy them $20 a hundred after hours. Or at the local gun shows later for $30 a hundred. There might be two 1000 packs each which are grabbed up before I can get back to them.

So what is left are packs of 100 for $10.

One shelves them Tuesday morning, and the other Saturday afternoon. You get 1 pack of 100 per person. Per day. So it's not worth going for me unless I have somewhere else to go.

 

[358156 hp]

I quit selling primers at gun shows after seeing some of the greedy sellers out there making all of us look bad. The last primers I sold were to clear out my older Winchester and Federal LR primers a month or so ago. I sold a bunch to an old guy for $3.50/100. He came back a few minutes later with a friend, and they bought everything I had. I suppose they're going to flip them, but I hope not. The average price on other tables was around $125.00/1K.

 

[Edward R Southgate]

chuckle...

another guy told me yesterday he seen the same primers, at the same price, at another Scheels, so they are at least consistent in their pricing.

yep the paper base wad hulls are about all gone.
which is par for the course, since I just bought 5 cases of wads to use in them.
I can get the exact same load in the new plastic base hulls but I get a slight dish in the crimp.
just about enough I'm not cool with it,,, but also not quite enough I'm gonna make any changes to the load.
I could put in another 1/16 oz of bird shot, a couple of puff wheats/ a cheerio etc., and have perfect crimps again, but maaan this federal hull swaparoo every 9 months is getting old.

That is why I bought 5000 Gold medal hulls and many bags of matching wads several years back . Also bought 2 cases of primers at the same time . Bought the same in 2.5" 16 ga and another 5000 of 28 ga + a lifetime supply of wads . When my old man money starts I am gonna find me a good used shot maker then I will be set for life . I also have another 20,000 cheddite primers for the 16's and 28's .

 

[Tomme boy]

Stopped out to Scheels and Fin an Feather today in IA City. SRM CCI $80/1K at Scheels $8.99/100 at FnF. Both had a bunch.

Then there was this. They had 2 pallets of them.




Most powders at both places were $34-$69/lb. All Hodgdon rifle powders were $45-$55. The Most expensive was a 1lb of RL10x for $69/lb. 231, 296,h110 were $35+. Both places had all kinds of Accurate powders. Most were $34 or so for pistol to $45 for rifle. 5744 was actually one of the cheapest at $34.

If these prices don't go down I will be not buying anything at these prices.

 

[Dimner]

These new powder prices are unsustainable for the average joe. I just don't get it. This is becoming/has become a rich man's hobby.

 

[fiver]

those nobel's are inline with online prices.

 

[Tomme boy]

What I find funny is the hazmat we get charged. We can have only a certain amount of powder and a certaint amount of primers. Yet they can have pallets of them shipped and not have to pay the same hazmat. My one dealer told me a while back he does not get charged hazmat. I did not really beleive him. I wanted him to get me a couple bottles of varget. And that was the only powder he ordered that week and I got it for the same price PV had it listed for. If he had to pay hazmat on that I would have paid more than the $24 a bottle for them.

 

[fiver]

yeah... they still have to properly flag the truck, and the driver still has to have the license to drive the truck too.
but we don't have to have any of that to drive home 100-K primers and 48lbs. of powder in the trunk.

 

[waco]

I have zero need to buy anything anytime soon. I just hope the prices come down a bit sometime in the next 8-10 years. When they do, I'll make one last purchase and not worry about it again. My kids can fight over the leftovers.

 

[Jeff H]

When they first started this bogus "hazmat" thing, it was $2. Then it went to $3,...

I called US DOT and inquired about it. The guy was very nice and instructed me to look at the label and read a number to him. It started with "UN."

He told me that this was basically a bone we threw to the UN, by agreeing to get on board with some small transportation (read small arms) regulations which they want to be a world standard. This was in the early nineties when I called.

He could have been blowing smoke up my butt or not, but he also stated that the stuff being called "hazardous" is not hazardous according to USDOT as long as it is packaged and shipped they way it was already being shipped. Not their call, according to him.

Not tryingto start a conspiracy theory here.

 

[fiver]

ISO-9001
AKA I.S.O. of some money.

 

[Snakeoil]

I have at least one cardboard drum full of once fired Reminton 12ga hulls. Bought them at the Illion club where Remington did all their test firing. They are old but very usable. Wish you guys were closer. We could do some horse trading. I'd kill for some LR and SR primers and 8 lbs of 2400.