RCBS Easy Melt

Rick

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I don't know of any way to get away from pressure varying, as the level in the pot goes down so does the amount of weight of alloy on the orifice. Not only that but the nature of the beast of any electric pot is that as the level of alloy goes down the alloy temp goes up. Just a couple of the reasons I ladle cast from a PID controlled 40 pound pot.

If anyone would insist on bottom feeding just use a Rowell #2 ladle and you can bottom pour from the top of the pot. :)
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I think I could benefit from learning to ladle pour. That new RCBS pot looks slick. Not too much $$$ either.
You guys are fans of the Rowell's #2 correct?
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I don't know of any way to get away from pressure varying, as the level in the pot goes down so does the amount of weight of alloy on the orifice. Not only that but the nature of the beast of any electric pot is that as the level of alloy goes down the alloy temp goes up.
This is what I fight all the time.
 

VZerone

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I don't know of any way to get away from pressure varying, as the level in the pot goes down so does the amount of weight of alloy on the orifice. Not only that but the nature of the beast of any electric pot is that as the level of alloy goes down the alloy temp goes up. Just a couple of the reasons I ladle cast from a PID controlled 40 pound pot.

If anyone would insist on bottom feeding just use a Rowell #2 ladle and you can bottom pour from the top of the pot. :)


Those PID's work very well with a bottom pour too. I got one on my old RCBS Pro Melt and it only varies a few degrees. So it maintains the same temperature as the pot level goes down.
 

Rick

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This would be a cheap way to learn!

I don't know what that means, cheap way? That's what a #2 costs today. Took a few years to convince Brad to try it but ask him what happened the very first time he used the Rowell #2.

On the other hand it will be more expensive if your using a LEE pot cause the #2 won't fit into it. :eek::rolleyes:
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I don't know what that means, cheap way? That's what a #2 costs today
I meant being able to use my current pot. Only buying the new ladle is not too much money. Inexpensive way to learn before investing in a dedicated ladle pot.:D
 

Rick

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I meant being able to use my current pot. Only buying the new ladle is not too much money. Inexpensive way to learn before investing in a dedicated ladle pot.:D

I have no dedicated ladle pot. I have three, one I loaned to a friend (a Lyman) about 12-15 years ago to start him casting and never saw again, but hey, he's still casting. :confused: Next one is the RCBS 22 pound that I keep soft alloy in and the Magma 40 pound. Bottom pours all.
 

creosote

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I just tried my #2. In the rcbs bottom pour. It fits, but mot much room to move its about 3 9/16 the Rowell#1 is about 3 inches at the widest point.
 

Rick

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Yeah, a bit tricky in the RCBS because of the size of the top of the pot. It works but a bit of a learning curve to get it down well. Any pot smaller than the RCBS and the Rowell #2 can't be used at all.
 

creosote

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Winelover, is the probe for the pid in the pot? Just curious if it's in the way at all. Or is it under, out of sight.
 

Rick

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Would be nothing in the RCBS ladle pot except your favorite alloy and your #2 Rowell. :)
 

Rick

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That's more how I do it Brad. How many did you cast like that and did they turn out any better? Worse? Same? Don't care?
 

Brad

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I cast until the pot was lower than I have had it before. Top of the ladle was sticking out of the melt when on the bottom of the pot. Must be 350-400 of them.
Bases did seem to fill out more evenly? Didn't have much trouble before. It is all about keeping the sprue melted while the bullet is hardening.
It did tend to give me a hotter mould so I had to slow down a bit. Frosting wasn't an issue but on a few I got a rounded middle drive band on one or two cavities. To me that is a classic too hot sign from the mould.

It was simply a matter of rotating the mould so it was across the front of the top instead of sticking in from the edge.
 

Rick

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Never once have I turned on a pot with the intention of "how many how fast". I never cast fast or even try to, I cast for the quality of what I'm making even though odds are I'm the only one that will ever see them. If casting needs to be a bit slower so be it.

Practice it that way for awhile and even pour more lead than that, then after casting a batch weigh out several of them and see if weight variation is improved.
 

Brad

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I have a few moulds I need to break out and work with. Rifle moulds that have given fits in the past but I think I can do better with now.
Changing little things like how I pour, how long I pour, and how fast I cast are making a big difference in bullet quality.

I need to stop thinking of how many but rather think of how good.
 

Rick

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I need to stop thinking of how many but rather think of how good.

By golly I think your getting it. :) You take pride in your machining because it's something you made yourself don't you? Should your bullets be any different? Is 350 bullets more important than 150 good bullets? All well filled out, minimum weight variation and even though nobody else is going to examine them you can feel good knowing you made them.