rem m14
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L Ross
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What about brass?!
I am currently jonesin' for a Remington Model 14 1/2. And while I'm dreaming I'd opt for a .38-40.
oscarflytyer
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my copy is a 14 in 35 Rem. Been around the block, and guy over on RemSociety rebuilt it - but price was DEF right! True Depression gun. 1928 dated receiver and 1932 dated bbl. Rem puts a date code on the bbl. All those old guns were machinist fit/finished. Had a rack of receivers and a barrel of barrels and put them together to meet orders and make sure the fit/functioned. Why they can be so picky function wise.
Recommendation from the RS guy: Factory ammo is best (but out of luck with 30 Rem!), so make sure you adhere to factory ammo coal dimensions for good cycling. He recommends against cast, as it puts slivers in the action. Due to how hard the action is on ammo/brass. I can tell you that mine will mark up brass and cycled ammo a good bit. So far (although a reload/cast for a Marlin 336 35 Rem), only factory loads in my 14...
I keep toying with one in 30 and/or 32. But toll up to reload is high. and I have enough projects right now!
Recommendation from the RS guy: Factory ammo is best (but out of luck with 30 Rem!), so make sure you adhere to factory ammo coal dimensions for good cycling. He recommends against cast, as it puts slivers in the action. Due to how hard the action is on ammo/brass. I can tell you that mine will mark up brass and cycled ammo a good bit. So far (although a reload/cast for a Marlin 336 35 Rem), only factory loads in my 14...
I keep toying with one in 30 and/or 32. But toll up to reload is high. and I have enough projects right now!
oscarflytyer
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IF I could find an even HALF WAY reasonable 14 1/2 in 44-40, I would own it! But so far, they go North of $1500!
L Ross
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There was one here at my shoot a little over a week ago, with Brit proof marks. Some kind of WWI purchase by Great Britain, .44-40. Good shooter.
oscarflytyer
Well-Known Member
Brit proofs! Sounds like the Win 94s that went to Spain! Any chance one you saw was for sale? I am very set for 44-40 loading/casting wise!
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
My experience with Remington 14's is that they are fine shooters, but the extraction is weak. You have to keep the pressure down, even with cast bullets. FWIW
todd
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25, 30 and 32 remington brass and dies and shell holder is available at grafs.
www.grafs.com
Metallic Reloading Supplies - Graf & Sons
www.grafs.com
RBHarter
West Central AR
Mine came with a box of new yellow box Win unprimed cases and a box of someone's loads . A shell holder for 6.8 SPC is the current correct shell holder .
Graffs wasn't carrying it yet when I got mine . I made 20 from 30-30 and 32 WS . Mine is a 32 Rem . Dies are 80-110 so buy what you can find . That's dookey about them being just being rimless Winchester's . They're more like an AI with a Weatherby shoulder . They do share data ........ you're on your own with the 25 .
Mine ,are in 1935 defined loooong gravely trigger in the way that a 60 something VW Bug defines quirky clutch and don't get the drums wet .
My search for 264 WM actually netted more 32 Rem brass .......
Graffs wasn't carrying it yet when I got mine . I made 20 from 30-30 and 32 WS . Mine is a 32 Rem . Dies are 80-110 so buy what you can find . That's dookey about them being just being rimless Winchester's . They're more like an AI with a Weatherby shoulder . They do share data ........ you're on your own with the 25 .
Mine ,are in 1935 defined loooong gravely trigger in the way that a 60 something VW Bug defines quirky clutch and don't get the drums wet .
My search for 264 WM actually netted more 32 Rem brass .......
jordanka16
Active Member
25, 30 and 32 remington brass and dies and shell holder is available at grafs.
Metallic Reloading Supplies - Graf & Sons
It's good brass too, I use the 25 remington in my model 8.
RBHarter
West Central AR
I got mine for $35-40 on CB , CH4D box . If you're patient it can happen but I had the rifle 6-7 yr before I had the correct dies . I had 32 WS dies as a band-aid and a Lee Loader . It's probably just dumb luck the CH dies size at all , I don't think they move enough to get good jacketed hold .
RBHarter
West Central AR
Casual look at a 32,30 Rem , 32 WS , 32 Rem , 6.8 .
You'll note the subtle difference in case length , taper and shoulder shape . There's almost no taper left .
Handloader magazine actually lead me to data for the 32 Rem . If I'd known about the relationship to the 32 WS and read the intro to same in my Speer #12 it would have saved me about 30 hours of net combing circa 02' for data ........
You'll note the subtle difference in case length , taper and shoulder shape . There's almost no taper left .
Handloader magazine actually lead me to data for the 32 Rem . If I'd known about the relationship to the 32 WS and read the intro to same in my Speer #12 it would have saved me about 30 hours of net combing circa 02' for data ........
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jordanka16
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I've been bugging starline to make brass for these ever since they started making rifle brass. They already make 6.8spc and 224 valkyrie, both of which are based on the 30 remington, so I cant imagine it would be that difficult. And there are lots of these rifles out there, I know I'd like to have cheaper more plentiful brass.
I use the hornady dies, they work well aside from the fact they put a 264 expander ball in mine and I had to wait for them to send the correct one.
I use the hornady dies, they work well aside from the fact they put a 264 expander ball in mine and I had to wait for them to send the correct one.
oscarflytyer
Well-Known Member
IF they did, I am pretty sure I would own at least one copy of each of the 30 Rem and 32 Rem!
Mowgli Terry
Active Member
I've had my 1939 vintage 141 for several years. It's a nice old rifle in good condition. Caliber is 35 Remington. We speculate how many thousands of dollars it would cost to duplicate one of these rifles today. It's safe and sound but far down on the cast and reloading agenda.