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KeithB

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Don't doubt there is life out there. Seriously doubt they have or are doing anything right here but if they were maybe they would be good enough to hide their activities so who knows?

I believe that most informed speculation for the Baghdad Battery was that it was used for electroplating, most likely jewelry. It has enough "juice" for that but electric lighting is a power wasting proposition.
 

Pistolero

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I figure they were electroplating jewelry, IF it was a battery.

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Geez, Keith, I really didn't see your post before I did mine. I agree that the electric lights is extremely unlikely.
 
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Ian

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Sod rooves traditionally had birch bark layers put on first, then the sod layered on top. I will use decking and probably vinyl flooring material to fully waterproof the roof and make steps in it with boards underneath to create pockets that hold water in reserve.

I know the creosote fumes will get bad inside so am planning to whitewash the whole inside unless someone has a better idea. A friend recommended Gunite but that's beyond my means. Maybe plaster, we'll see.

I don't know about alien influence or them leaving technology with us which can cut and move thousand ton blocks of impossibly hard stone hundreds of miles or if it was advanced human civilizations lost to time and destroyed by massive natural cataclysms (probably several cycles of this), but one thing is for certain: the worldwide monolithic block constructions weren't made with ropes, logs, copper saws, and bronze chisels. It's just mot possible. If you don't believe me, get a rough chunk of ordinary pink granite (not as hard as andesite or basalt) and some brass or copper rod and a sack of blasting sand and tell me how long it takes you to make a polished flat spot on it. While you're at it, jack up a 200,000 pound block of rock, stuff a bunch of wooden logs under it, and tell me how well it rolls after the logs are crushed to dust. Look at photos of the quarries at Aswan, Peru, and India to name a few and tell me what device was used to slice out huge chunks of basalt like a hot wire through foam. It wasn't a string wetted and coated with sand. The feats the known civilizations are credited with performing with primitive tools and manual labor are ludicrous. Another observation is that when we look at these things and imagine how impossibly time consuming and difficult it must have been to do them that way....we're wrong. It was actually pretty easy using whatever technology was available. It HAD to be easy or it never would have been done. So, alien visitors or not, we've all been lied to our whole lives about how all this really ancient massive stonework was really done. The Egyptians didn't construct the pyramids at Giza, the Inca didn't build Machu Pichu et cetera (they've said as much from the earliest Spanish accounts, they rebuilt ruins crudely and added to them, the difference in workmanship is blindingly obvious), and the Romans didn't build the foundation of the Baalbek temple. These civilizations inherited the structures in a damaged or incomplete state and built on top of and/or expanded them. Whodunnit originally? I don't know but it has driven me to distraction most of my life, ever since I was a kid and first saw a photograph of the walls at Sacsayhuaman and wondered wtf that was ever done by a civilization that barely had gold and copper for metal and no diamond tooling.
 

Ian

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I don't buy the electoplating theory. Electoplating wasn't a thing then as far as I have been able to discover. No other use of elecricity has been proven either, and nobody has adequately explained how the insides of all the massive underground complexes around the world were lit during construction or use. No soot evidence and certainly not enough ventation in most of them to support torches.

What do you all think about whitewashing the logs on the interior?
 
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Tomme boy

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Check out Brian Forester on Youtube. He has some really neat vids of all this. He even has some elongated skulls from Peru that have a middle eastern DNA. I think from Around the Caspian Sea area. And they were red heads.

They just did a few vids over in Jordan at Petra and Little Petra. I really want to go see these.
 
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Pistolero

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Unfortunately, going to Petra these days is taking your life in your hands.

I never doubt what a smart guy with a lot of time and nearly unlimited labor hours can do with simple
tools.
 

Brad

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Would one of the shellac based primers seal the wood and keep the creosote doors down? You could then use a regular paint to make the interior brighter.
 

Rick

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Would one of the shellac based primers seal the wood and keep the creosote doors down? You could then use a regular paint to make the interior brighter.

confused.pngHhmmm . . . Yep, gotta keep them creosote doors . . . DOWN. Just can't have them . . . UP.
 

Ian

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I never doubt what a smart guy with a lot of time and nearly unlimited labor hours can do with simple
tools.

The Roman Empire and Dynastic Chinese proved that....to a point. What they accomplished was actually feasible with the tools, manpower/slave labor, economy, materials, and timeline history provides us.

How many labor hours do you think it might have taken to construct the bottom (original) course at Sacsayhuaman, without any kind of tooling sufficient to cut the stone? We're missing something here, because with the "givens" that well-funded conventional archaeologists provide, it does not add up.
 

Ian

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Would one of the shellac based primers seal the wood and keep the creosote doors down? You could then use a regular paint to make the interior brighter.

Kilz maybe? I've used some of the Kilz2 for priming bathroom drywall, not sure if the original product is still available, will check.
 

popper

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The Romans used some 75 horses and 900 men to raise the obelisk in St. Peter's. Iron tools in David's day (problem with the Philistines?) which was before the Egyptians started a lot of 'carvings'. Then of course there was the tower of Babel. Not much left of Petra but India has lots of stone carved caves and such.
Anyway, could use some of the heavy latex(?) based paint used for stone sealing against water. Not much else will kill the fumes. Painted folk's stone basement as a kid, some moisture still came through. Creosote should be a good piggy attractant/rub.
I see aliens every day. As for life in the stars, who cares? And yes, they found red headed (Rus people) remains with briton fabric in the Gobi. Me thinks people were more mobile than we credit. Been reading a lot about origin of written language, seems like earliest found evidence is 9k BC and only 2 base 'roots'.
 

fiver

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killz would take a bunch of coats.

Ian, look at that deck correct stuff.
I use a bunch of it, and the worst that ever happens to it is the dark colors get water stains from our calcium water here.
it's thick stuff and you want to apply two coats [I do a quick watered down first one then a heavy second] but it will fill in the cracks and seal the splinters and such.

I have started using it along the bottom corners of the house where the snow sits and the lower edges of the shed.
I painted the wood for the raised beds with it, and the fence out in the garden.
I also pretty closely matched my house color and painted the porch out front with it.
it ain't cheap [like 45$ a gallon] and you have to keep adding water as you go through a can because it dries up some.

but it would seal those poles off, and any future painting needed would just go on right over it.
 

Ian

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I was planning on the Deck Correct stuff for sealing the outside and uniforming the color of the logs and pressure-treated lumber that will be used for the eaves and exposed rafter tails but didn't consider it on the inside. Can the stuff be sprayed with an airless?
 

creosote

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I havnt kept up on the latest & greatest paint primers, but we used to use
B-I-N, Made by zinsser?
It's a shellac based primer for stopping mould odor. I think it would stick to crayon so sticking to the creosote might be good to.
 
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Yep, I see hundreds of the illegal type every day. ;)
 
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freebullet

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I would consider building a cheap /free water management structure inside the creasote cabin. Another consideration, if your coating doesn't seal or bond, as creosote dries out it sluffs off some fairly toxic particulate matter. Outside it may wash away, inside no.

Pallets, around here, are free if you go gettem'. An interior pallet structure would allow use of a vapor barrier, separating the interior from the inevitable gunkage. Could even do metal roof under the sod with drainage for the excess. That's the line I'd be thinking down if cheap, safe, & dry were my concerns & the outside needed to appear antiquated.