so waht ya doin today?

Hawk

Well-Known Member
Waco,
I've got a Glock model 20 in 10 m m that I'm working up some loads for right now. Was using blue dot, but the muzzle blast was awesome! Got some stepped up loads of Longshot and another of be-86. These two powders corrode my PC bullets, so I'm using some of Pat Marlan's plan base, crimp on, gas checks. Loaded up a bunch to take out Sunday and shoot.
 

Hawk

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By the way, the Blue Dot gave great accuracy in the 10MM, but the muzzle blast was terrible and the fireball was the size of a basketball. Loading Mihecs 200 gr cast with the small HP. Mine weigh 188, PC'ed with a check in place.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Jimbo,
No problem, it is easy too. I cook it in a square cast iron skillet, very well seasoned, it says 8 SQSK
on the back, bottom measures 8x8 inches, top is wider, naturally.

OK
Bill's Perfected Cornbread

Ingredients:
1 1/2 cups yellow corn meal
3/4 cup all purpose flour
1/4 cup sugar
1 tsp salt
2 1/2 tsp baking powder
2 eggs
1 1/2 cup milk
4 Tblspoons oil

Put medium sized cast iron skillet in oven with 1 1/2 Tblspoons of oil ( I use canola) in the
skillet, turn on oven to 400F and let it preheat while you mix.

In a large bowl, put corn meal, flour, sugar, salt and baking powder. Mix well, I use a large
whisk. In a medium bowl, break the eggs, beat them thoroughly (I use a small whisk), then
add the remaining 2 1/2 Tblspoons of oil, and beat it in thoroughly, then add the milk, mix
well. Pour the liquids into the dry while mixing, to produce a pretty runny batter.
By now the oven should be up to temp. If it is, pull out the screaming hot skillet, and CAREFULLY
spread the hot oil around evenly, up the sides. You can use a brush for best safety and effectiveness.
Then pour in the batter, and return the skillet to the oven. Bake for 25 or 26 minutes until the top
is just golden brown. Pull it out, cool for about 5 minutes, then run a table knife around the vertical
sides to ensure it is free (mine never sticks to a well seasoned skillet) and flop out onto a cooling
rack, then flip over. Cool for about 10 min and cut. I cut into 16 pieces, cut in half and add butter.

Pretty good, pretty easy. Keeps fine in a plastic bag or wrap in the refrigerator. It will dry out, at
least in our climate, if you leave it out too long. It can get soggy if you put it into a big back before
it has cooled to room temp, too much water still in it, condenses in the bag, then gets soggy. Bag
right as it reaches room temp for best results.

Enjoy!

Bill
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I would suggest BE-86 for the 10mm. Alliant online data says 8.2 max under 180 JHP for
1,265 fps. BE-86 is flash suppressed, does well for me in other calibers, although I do not
load for 10mm.

Bill
 

uncle jimbo

Well-Known Member
Jimbo,
No problem, it is easy too. I cook it in a square cast iron skillet, very well seasoned, it says 8 SQSK
on the back, bottom measures 8x8 inches, top is wider, naturally.

OK
Bill's Perfected Cornbread

Ingredients:
1 1/2 cups yellow corn meal
3/4 cup all purpose flour
1/4 cup sugar
1 tsp salt
2 1/2 tsp baking powder
2 eggs
1 1/2 cup milk
4 Tblspoons oil

Put medium sized cast iron skillet in oven with 1 1/2 Tblspoons of oil ( I use canola) in the
skillet, turn on oven to 400F and let it preheat while you mix.

In a large bowl, put corn meal, flour, sugar, salt and baking powder. Mix well, I use a large
whisk. In a medium bowl, break the eggs, beat them thoroughly (I use a small whisk), then
add the remaining 2 1/2 Tblspoons of oil, and beat it in thoroughly, then add the milk, mix
well. Pour the liquids into the dry while mixing, to produce a pretty runny batter.
By now the oven should be up to temp. If it is, pull out the screaming hot skillet, and CAREFULLY
spread the hot oil around evenly, up the sides. You can use a brush for best safety and effectiveness.
Then pour in the batter, and return the skillet to the oven. Bake for 25 or 26 minutes until the top
is just golden brown. Pull it out, cool for about 5 minutes, then run a table knife around the vertical
sides to ensure it is free (mine never sticks to a well seasoned skillet) and flop out onto a cooling
rack, then flip over. Cool for about 10 min and cut. I cut into 16 pieces, cut in half and add butter.

Pretty good, pretty easy. Keeps fine in a plastic bag or wrap in the refrigerator. It will dry out, at
least in our climate, if you leave it out too long. It can get soggy if you put it into a big back before
it has cooled to room temp, too much water still in it, condenses in the bag, then gets soggy. Bag
right as it reaches room temp for best results.

Enjoy!

Bill
Thank you. I am going to try it this weekend.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
And they are very nicely done 2# triggers.
I also learned that the 329 S&W is a wicked little gun. A couple rounds with 10 gr Unique and a 429421 was enough for me. Never fired a gun that torqued like that in recoil. Can't imagine what full mag loads are like. Didn't care to find out.
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
Bill,
I figure the PC coating over lead will let me go a little higher than 8.2 with the BE-86.
I've got loads laddered up in 0.2 grain steps from 7.6 to 8.8. five rounds of each. I'll watch for pressure signs as I shoot from low to high.
My experience with other high pressure rounds is accuracy improves as you get close to maximum pressure, but we'll see.
Sig Sauer is loading 8.8 gr. under a 180 gr. jacketed bullet.
I'm looking for best accuracy in a high end load, not the highest I can go.
Loaded 10.2 grains of Blue Dot with this bullet, in my gun, without any pressure signs. Stopped there because 9.9 gr. was the most accurate, but like I said, muzzle blast and fireball with that load is inspiring.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Yeah, Brad, imagine shooting one with 18 grains of 2400 and that 280-sumthin TC bullet of yours, and trying to hold together a long range group. I am NOT a fan of S&W .44 Maggot revolvers.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Wouldn't even try it Ian. A 25 ounce 44 mag is a handful to fire. Great to carry, bad to fire. Certainly not a range gun. Never felt torque like that. I did keep my 2 shots on a paper plate at 25 yards.
My Super Redhwak is a pussycat by compairison. Built like a frickin tank too.
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
Oooooh, I love the S&W 44 Mags.
I've got a couple of model 629s that are real shooters. One scoped, one open sights.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
A 29 or 629 wouldn't be bad. The 329 is an airweight with the scnadoum frame and titanium cylinder. I was shocked at how light it was. My wife was too.
Reducing the gun's mass by almost half leads to a significant reduction in recoil
 

Ian

Notorious member
Oooooh, I love the S&W 44 Mags.
I've got a couple of model 629s that are real shooters. One scoped, one open sights.

Ditto. Inherited them both and only have/keep them because of that. Ultra Dot on the 10.5" and fully adjustable rear with red insert blade on the Dirty Harry 29-1 pinned and counterbored model.
 

Ian

Notorious member
A 29 or 629 wouldn't be bad. The 329 is an airweight with the scnadoum frame and titanium cylinder. I was shocked at how light it was. My wife was too.
Reducing the gun's mass by almost half leads to a significant reduction in recoil

Holy jeezus, I thought that 3 was a typo, never heard of an airweight .44....that sounds like a terrible idea! The tall frame and violent twist when firing, even with your arm bones lined up straight behind the back strap, makes the whole design tough to manage. I want no part of 26 oz.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I have shot significant numbers, perhaps 300 rds of maximum loads with the 250 Keith and a 300 Lee GC
LBTish design in the 329. I regularly shot 50 rds in testing, 10 different loads, 5 rds each as a range session.
Felt something pop in my hand, near the base of the thumb at about rd 42 or so one time, fired 43 and
stopped. New rule. 10 rds of full power loads per range session, max. Hand got a big bruise, ached
for a few days.
It is a special purpose gun, big bear self defense. No fun as a range gun, purely a tool. A good one, but
definitely special purpose.
It is fun to hand someone a big ole N-frame that weighs 25 oz Really a surprise, as Brad said.

Need to send it back to Smith. The steel gas cutting protector plate above the barrel to keep cyl gap
gasses from cutting thru the frame is worn thru, they say they will replace it.

No typo, Ian. Ultra light .44 Mag. I got a special grip from S&W only, a Monogrip with some extra
padding in the rear. Helps significantly. Came with wooden grips and a regular Monogrip. I
fired ONE full power round with the wood grips. Never intend to repeat that error.

Bill
 
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Ian

Notorious member
Theres a major nerve bundle and artery that run along the inside of our thumbs, against the bones and across the cartilage of the second joint...right where the s&w backstrap arch is. Ask Miculek how well his thumbs work these days. Be careful with that stuff iow!
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Drove home form KC today. Got our stuff in the house, changed clothes, and went to work on the wall.
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Ian

Notorious member
Good to see you have plenty of adult supervision for the project :rofl:

Lookin' good, you made a lot if progress in a short time.