so waht ya doin today?

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Had a 20 yard dumpster dropped off on Friday. Been here almost 18 years. Amazing the crap one can accumulate over the years.
20 yards?
That is a lot of dumpster. We will be getting a 10 yard later this month at Paul’s. Less going in there after talking to the lady for the estate sale. They sell damn near anything and everything.
 

Gary

SE Kansas
Jon
One more thing about cloth face masks..... If you like what you are doing you soon forget you are wearing one.
A few times a month I have to go to a company to photograph their products. They are in a Red zone ( as far as I'm concerned) But I like doing my job so within the first hour I'm so caught up in what I'm doing I do not pay attention to the mask!
( only when they bring me lunch do I remove it and every one is 15 feet or more apart and limited to 3 people at a time in the studio)
Enjoy you show but stay safe The wife has just bought 4 designer style masks which use charcoal filter packs!
Fit nice and comfortable .....a must if you have to be in a place where it gets crowded!

You do realize that cloth face masks provide ZERO protection for the wearer, right?
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
You wear a mask to protect me, I wear one to protect you.
The mask traps most respiratory droplets.

When we do any immunizations we now have to wear a face shield to protect our eyes from any stray respiratory droplets.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
You wear a mask to protect me, I wear one to protect you.
The mask traps most respiratory droplets.

When we do any immunizations we now have to wear a face shield to protect our eyes from any stray respiratory droplets.

I would buy that reasoning if your wearing a medical grade mask but a strip of your underwear over your face is useless.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
they hardly get any snow up there.
maybe enough to cover the bottom panel in a wet year, it's the wind drift that'll cause the build up.
the real problem is the loss of the sunlight on the panels that are covered up, it'll cut the juice off by 30% or more.
More than 30%. More like about 90% wit has little as 3"
The real problem, because of my latitude if your in the open on the flats your shadow at high noon is about 150 to 200 feet long. It's only about belt buckle high over the horizon.
Down in your neck of the woods, were panels are set at shallow at about 25* here we will set panels at 50* to 70*. At my property we totally lose the sun in the trees for about 2 1/2 months. About the first part of March till October it's Katie bar the door for sun shine. On June 20th the sun rises on the right hand edge of my bay window, and sets on the left hand edge 21 hours later. All while sitting at the table.
Here in the interior we get very little wind, and the snow is very dry. A push broom will clear the panels of snow. At least you get bright sky charging which is about 10 to 15%, for a couple of hours.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Show me the clinical and scientific evidence! If A masks stops .1% coming out of your lungs that makes me happy!
It all has to do with peoples "contrail"! Cross into the contrail at your risk
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
The size of covid 19 is about 125 nm (0.125 microns).

What is the size of the weave in that cloth mask?
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Rick, it doesn‘t keep a virus particle out, or in. The mask you wear stops the majority of respiratory droplets, little bits of spit, when you talk or breath. By keeping most of them in they are prevented from falling on surfaces or being inhaled by others. This is why the social distancing helps, those droplets generally fall to the ground within 6 ft. The virus is contained in those little beads of spit so containing the contains the virus.

Does any of this entirely stop the virus from spreading? No. Does it greatly reduce the spread? Yes.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Have no Damn Idea! But the civilized folks I hang out with have the respect of others to were a mask
Even if we all will die wearing them!
 

Ian

Notorious member
Masks don't (and don't need to) filter covid. They filter your gleeks and aerosols, period. That's why we BOTH wear them AND stay six feet or more away. Make sense?
 

popper

Well-Known Member
Aerosol drops = 5*10^-6 dia. 'fluid' discharge is much larger. N2 (what we breathe) = 370*10^-12, covid19 = 120*10^-9. High fiber count porosity of cotton cloth is 40*10^-6. Multiple layers improve filter efficiency greatly. Path length thing. Most of the porported mask tests are for forcefull high velocity material. Not the normal 10 psi of breathing. Covid is actually a rather large virus chain, ~11000 molecules. Very light 'chunk' so dispersal by itself cannot travel far (NO momentum!). Attached to moisure - goes farther but readily filtered. Basically, yes, masks do help. even the relatively poor ones (20%).
 
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Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Ok guys, time to ratchet down the dialogue.

How bout we discuss anything but the damn virus? Don’t know about you guys but it is all I hear about everywhere else and I need a place to go and get away from that bit of reality.

Today we installed 5 exterior and 3 interior light fixtures for Paul. Ceiling fan needs a retrofit box to be “right” but the old one is down.

Tomorrow I call the plumber. Painter used the spigot on the back of Payl’s house and the laundry room flooded. I have a feeling the frost free sillcock froze last winter and this is the first time it was used.