RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
The OP's request for an "anything in the lower 48" stops the .30 caliber for me, as WA has elk, moose and grizzly. As much as I like the 30/30, it would not be good for me.
The Ideal Cast Bullet Rifle
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oscarflytyer
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also missed the L48. I am in the South, so centric to me. But I am a 45-70 fan, so still good!
Spindrift
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The Whelen barrel is new, got it at the beginning of the covid lockdown- only one range trip so far. The plan is to find a good hunting load with either a 310 grs, or a 260grs bullet (from CBE), and use it for moose this autumn. And possibly wild boar.
StrawHat
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Very surprised no one has mentioned the 30 US or Krag cartridge. Nice capacity, decent neck, available in bolt or single shot. I have one, not yet fired a single round through it. Most of my time is with revolvers.
30 caliber would be the smallest I could see for this challenge. 40 would be the largest. Not much in between that gets my attention.
Kevin
30 caliber would be the smallest I could see for this challenge. 40 would be the largest. Not much in between that gets my attention.
Kevin
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fiver
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meh I got a 95 in 30-40 I'm not all that impressed with it.
I could make do for this challenge with the 358 Hawkeye, or probably the 32 Winchester [if I kept the distances short]
the 358 with a 250gr bullet is a for sure deer thumper with cast bullets at jacketed velocities so a 2-250yd. shot wouldn't be out of it's window, pretty much the same range a 7 mauser has anyway.
I would prefer the 45-70 for Bull Elk just because of the easier sight dial ups and the energy of the 400gr bullet.
having said that the last Elk and Moose I shot was with the 7 Ackley [7X57] and the 358 would have done the job just as well on either one of them.
I could make do for this challenge with the 358 Hawkeye, or probably the 32 Winchester [if I kept the distances short]
the 358 with a 250gr bullet is a for sure deer thumper with cast bullets at jacketed velocities so a 2-250yd. shot wouldn't be out of it's window, pretty much the same range a 7 mauser has anyway.
I would prefer the 45-70 for Bull Elk just because of the easier sight dial ups and the energy of the 400gr bullet.
having said that the last Elk and Moose I shot was with the 7 Ackley [7X57] and the 358 would have done the job just as well on either one of them.
Rockydoc
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That is one lovely '99.
Yes I agree with y'all, levers are IN. I said no restrictions, and then in the same breath placed a restriction on lever actions. I had a Savage 99 and traded it in on a Browning Superposed back when I was shooting skeet. I am no longer shooting skeet, I am shooting cast bullets, I wish I had that '99 back.
Rockydoc
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What is a "358 Hawkeye"?
Rockydoc
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I am the OP. I live in Florida. It didn't occur to me there were Grizzlies in the northwest. But it should have, I have read about the increasing number of grizzlies encountered in Yellowstone National Park.
Ian
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There's the BLR and the Henry Long Ranger, both well-suited to pointed bullets and powerful cartridges. I get what you meant about traditional, tube-fed .30-30s not being ideal, but flat-nosed lead bullets are highly-effective killers, plain and simple, just not flat-shooting. I was going to submit the Marlin 336 in .35 Remington as THE all-around lead slinger and meatgetter because it's ambidextrous, can shoot plain-based handgun bullets as well as heavy, gas-checked bear hammers, is lightweight, compact, will accept just about any kind of sight or optic imaginable, has a small case capacity that works with any powder ranging from pistol/shotgun to medium rifle, is very cast-bullet friendly, and is rugged and reliable. BUT, I maintain that Townsend Whelen was right and the incredibly versatile .30-'06 (in a a proper CRF Model 70, says me) is the ultimate North American rifle.
That's an LR-308 with 18" lightweight, stainless steel barrel, purpose-built for killing wild pigs en masse. 200-yard "point blank" capability, 300-yard kill limit due to alloy/hp expansion and reduced velocity (1800 fps at that range). If the pigs are enormous, just pull the trigger a few more times.
That's an LR-308 with 18" lightweight, stainless steel barrel, purpose-built for killing wild pigs en masse. 200-yard "point blank" capability, 300-yard kill limit due to alloy/hp expansion and reduced velocity (1800 fps at that range). If the pigs are enormous, just pull the trigger a few more times.
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Rockydoc
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It looks like lever actions are the favorite so far. 35 caliber is in favor. I have decided that I want a 35 Remington Marlin. Yet there are a number of Marlin lever actions available and I don't know which is what. There are 336s with letter designations, 1894s with letter designations, etc. Which Marlin 35 Rem. is the most desirable?
On another note: I could not find a Remington788 in 30-30 available, however there were some Stevens 325A, B, and C models available. Is that something I would want?
On another note: I could not find a Remington788 in 30-30 available, however there were some Stevens 325A, B, and C models available. Is that something I would want?