Titegroup Powder question/experience

oscarflytyer

oscarflytyer

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As I use up all the bits and pieces of old pistol powder I have, and have to replenish, I would like to move to fewer different powders, and a single "do all" would be perfect. Do realize I might need a lb or 2 for special apps, but for everyday, one would be great. Then can buy an 8 lb'r and be done.

I am looking at Titegroup as the candidate. ALL cast bullet loads/shooting. All old established cartridges/traditional pressure loads/nothing fancy. Nothing magnum or +P. Lot of older guns and want to keep pressures down.

Calibers/bullet weights below. Pls give me your thoughts on Titegroup filling the bill. Thanx

32 S&W Long (90-100 grn)
32-20 Revolvers (90-115 grns)
38 SPC (158 grn)
357 Mag (158 grn)/(at basically 38/38+P level - no magnum stuff)
44 Special (220/240/255 grn)
44-40 (200-215 grn)
45 ACP (200/230 grn)
45 Auto Rim - see 45 ACP
45 Colt (250-265 grn)
 
Will

Will

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I love titegroup. Been using it for years in a lot of my pistol rounds. It works great for target loads and short barrels. Very easy on the wallet also. I do have to admit when you loading 44 magnums it’s a little scary to see how many max charges of titegroup could be put into a case.

Ian will be along here soon he has a lot more experience with titegroup.
 
fiver

fiver

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don't confine it, and don't give the bullet a chance to move down on it.

if your looking for some light target only type loads in the bigger cases, titegroup is real hard to beat.
it works okay in the smaller cases too but it makes me nervous in the 9mm.
on down wouldn't make me feel any better.


for what your listing there?
heck yeah it will work great,,,, just take what it gives you and don't look for anything you can also use unique or 2400 to do from it.
 
Hawk

Hawk

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I use Unique for about all my light to midrange loads. I guess that's because I have a lot of it.
One advantage I see is It will work for heavier loads, if the day comes when you need them.
Having said that, I'm probably going to buy some Titegroup for some light rifle loads I plan on trying to work up in the .223.
 
Ian

Ian

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The only handgung I ever blew up was a 1911 loaded with 4.8 grains of TG under a Lee TL452-230-2R. At the time I had recently changed my sizing die to a.45 Colt carbide die to work the brass less and increased the expander size. This gave adequate neck tension with everything EXCEPT #$%&*@# thin-assed Winchester brass, which at the time I was too ignorant to know to check ALL headstamps with my new system of 1.5 thousandths tension. Anyway, had a few Win cases in the magazine and the bullets got pounded deeper and deeper into the cases with each shot until the thing blew up, shot the magazine out, ruptured the stock panels, and stung my hands pretty badly. Examining the several cartridges that hadn't yet been fired, several had telescoped bullets. Lesson learned on several accounts, not the least of which Titegroup doesn't like to be cramped unless the load is designed for it (shotgun shells).

That said, TG is one of my all time favorite powders and has replaced everything in the pistol/shotgun spectrum except Universal. I have mointainsbofbither good powders but TG and Universal are the only ones I will be replacing.
 
Cherokee

Cherokee

Medina, Ohio
My do it all powder, 25 ACP to 44 Mag, is 231/HP38. I also use a lot of WST for light loads. TG is the old Win 452 which I used a lot of for 45 ACP but switched over to WST in later years.
 
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MikeN

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TiteGroup tough to beat in the calibers noted. Economical, not position sensitive, accurate. What's not to like. I also have been liking using W231 a lot lately.
 
462

462

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358156 hp

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Androids need to come with English subtitles:rofl:. I'm not a Titegroup fan, although I do feel I gave it a fair shake when it came out. The last straw for it came during a bowling pin match where I was shooting TG in a max load in 357 magnum. Sloppy shooting on my part left two pins laying sideways on the table, forcing a reload. I reloaded, then finished clearing the table with an additional 4-5 shots. When I cleared the revolver it was super hot! I've made the remark that I could have branded cattle with it. I got eliminated in the next round, the revolver didn't feel right in my hands (excuses, excuses), and I flat out lost that one.

When I got home I discovered that the revolver grip no longer fit my hand properly. The overheating had softened and distorted the nylon inner shell of my rubber Hogue grips. I replaced them with Hogue wood grips, and finished off the loaded ammo in practice. A few years later, during yet another reloading component famine, a friend of mine was complaining about not being able to find TG. I gifted him with the remaining three or so lbs in my four pounder, and seriously made his day.

Titegroup is a good, accurate powder, but it just wasn't appropriate for my needs at the time.
 
oscarflytyer

oscarflytyer

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More than once I have heard about the heat issue. As I am shooting it in a lot of older guns, they certainly don't need the heat. And I was able to find that I can get Unique and 38 for the same basic price. Stick with what I know well. Thanx all!
 
fiver

fiver

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Oscar if your looking to save some money take a look at titewad.
it burns in the same speed group as red-dot but you can generally find it some cheaper.
it does burn a might dirty until you kick it up over 12-15K, but I have seen it for as much as 30 dollars less than the other powders per 8lb. jug.
 
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