Weight sorted cases ..

Ian

Notorious member
I have a 72A and it shoots almost as well as my old boss's 52C. Almost. The 52C just oozes class and precision.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
As a side note, I bought a Win. 52C. Always wanted one. What an amazing rifle. Testing ammo to find what it likes best. We shoot .22's out to 300 yds. Some shoot theirs out to 500 is centerfire matches. .22 is a great little caliber.
While I was learning bench rest shooting, I shot BR-50; 50 shots at 50 bullseyes at 50 yards in 30 minutes. Over that three year period, I had an A, and a B and a C. The C was the best of the bunch from benchrest position. As I was working two jobs and both kids were out of school, there was money for guns. After the Winchesters, there was a BSA International Mk III and a Remington Model 37 remodeled just for BR-50. I kept the Remington only because the others were worth so much money, they became Springfield NRA Sporters and National Matches.
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Snakeoil, I am with the group that appreciates your results. Good shooting with good results obtained under the additional stress of a match are all the more impressive.
 

Snakeoil

Well-Known Member
Well, the only stress at Wilton' matches is either self-induced or from the ball-busting that goes on between relays. There are no prizes, only the scoresheet that gets sent out a day or so after the match to the members who regularly compete. So, your moment in the sun if you do well lasts as long as the short term memory of the membership, which is fleeting at best. I'll be 70 later this week and as I think I might have mentioned this here before, my shooting partner calls me "kid".

Wilton is truly a unique club. Pretty much everyone is shooting antique iron. Hepburns, High Walls, 44-1/2 Stevens, Springfields, Krags, Peabody's, Martinis, Enfields, Rolling Blocks, etc.. Yeah, there is the occasional Tikka or AR variant. But the old iron rules and also seems to rule on the scoresheets. We have one member that has a huge collection and shows up with a different rifle at every match and normally shoots the match offhand. Everybody gets along. Everybody helps one and other. One shooter will give another shooter a scope, a set of sights, inserts, etc., because he's no longer using them and wants to see them go to a good home. Someone needs powder, another will dip into his stash and share a pound of powder.

Yesterday, we had dogs with meat sauce, on the club. The guy that cooked is also an avid ice fisherman and he contributed about 5 lbs of freshly fried up yellow perch as finger-food to the lunch.

I consider myself very lucky to be a member of this club. Hell, just having a club like this near me is a gift. I've belonged to a lot of clubs and none of them have the kindred spirit of Wilton.
 

BudHyett

Active Member
This is a subject of many opinions. Weighed cases for several decades, buying 500 cases and sorting out by weight the median 300 cases for competition. This is a several day project since I would also neck-turn the cases to .015 wall thickness and trim to minimum case length. The uniform neck wall thickness was because I use a bushing die for reloading.

Discovered:
  • General Rule: Six grains of brass occupies the same volume as one grain of powder.
  • Federal Match and Lake City National Match brass were the most consistent domestic brass, no longer available.
  • Starline brass is now the most consistent domestic brass and they have great technical support.
  • Winchester-Western and Remington-Peters brass varies for consistency by lot number and from year to year.
  • Federal brass varies from lot number to lot number, but consistent within the lot number.
  • Lapua brass is the most consistent for weight and neck wall thickness.
  • The so-called "premium" brass is not worth the extra money. Buy Lapua.
Shooting .308 Winchester and .32-20 CPA for competition, my choices are Lapua and Starline. Today, I simply buy Lapua or Starline to save time sorting and neck-turning.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
i'm pretty firm in my belief that brass anneals at 715-F not below and anything much above that will start working on the zinc too much.

the issue with annealed brass is it tends to become gummy and sticky, giving the grabby issue if used straight from a single sizing on the case.
it needs to be slightly work hardened through some means.
whether that's through pin tumbling, sizing down then up and down again, or being run through the neck sizer a couple of times, it needs a little bit of bring back.
Huh. Interesting. Kinda ties in with some observations I've had over the years. I never got past the "gummy" part, just thought it was part of the process.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
This is my first visit to this thread. The quality of info on this site is SUPERB, and this thread's content exemplifies that trait. MANY THANKS.