White Label Lube Question

[462]

For those of you who use White Label lubes, which one do you prefer, and why?

I've been thinking of changing from Jake's, and White Label seems to be popular. I've been satisfied with my 2-to-1 concoction of Jake's scarlet and 50/50, but am willing to try another brand, especially if it performs better. Shooting temperatures range from the 40s to the high 70s.

I do not have any desire to make my own.

Thanks in advance.

Michael

 

[Brad]

Rifle or handgun?
Under 50° carnauba red will throw a few cold barrel flyers in smaller bores. Otherwise it will do all you need. It will need heat to flow well.

 

[AndyTheCornbread]

Before I started making my own lube(MML+Soap) I found that Carnuba Red worked really well in high power handgun like 454 Casull. A little goes a long ways and I found that to prevent lube based fliers using just one groove worth of lube was usually enough to lube but not too much so as to cause fliers. Like Brad said you will need heat to work with it.

 

[dannyd93140]

Carnuba Blue works good

 

[fiver]

red flows at over 100-f so a heater is for sure needed.
the blue is quite a bit softer.
I was using a stick of carnuba red to buffer 2 sticks of 50-50 for quite a while before I started making my own lubes.
it needed a couple of repair shots in the colder weather but held up over long strings and hotter weather.

 

[Ian]

BAC. good for what you require. 50/50 yellow beeswax and vaseline would be better, buy a Pyrex measuring cup and put it in a saucepan of simmering water to melt them together, then reheat and pour directly into the sizer to refill it like Ben does.

 

[462]

Rifle: 6.5 Swede, 7X57, .30-06, .45-70
Handgun: .357, .44 Spl., .45 ACP

 

[USSR]

I use BAC for all my handgun loads as well as my .30 Carbine load that does 1800fps.

Don

 

[Cherokee]

I use CR for everything smokeless; I like to keep it simple for myself. Works great in rifle and pistol and its inexpensive.

 

[Winelover]

I use CR for everything smokeless; I like to keep it simple for myself. Works great in rifle and pistol and its inexpensive.

Same here.

 

[dannyd93140]

Used Thompson Bullet Lube for 28 years, just started using CR and CB so far they work good only done about 2k bullets.

 

[Reloader762]

I've been using 2500+ for all my rifle and pistol loads, working temp is 60 F with a melt temp of 165 F never used a heater as for me it works perfectly fine without one but if your working temps are below 60 F it want be a problem using one.

 

[462]

Brad made me a lube offer I could not refuse.

Thank you, generous sir!

Thanks, too, to everyone who replied.

Michael

 

[fiver]

I can imagine.
I usually foist a handful of sticks on anyone I know that casts any time there is room when I mail them a box.

 

[Ian]

Ooooooh, fancy. All I got is slabs cut up with a butter knife, most of which won't melt anyway. All the good stuff got homogenized......

 

[fiver]

not that fancy.
by sticks I mean lube I mushed down by hand enough to resemble a cylinder small enough to fit in my stars.

 

[mattw]

I use 2500+ for all of my pistols and 2700+ for all rifles and sometimes high end loads for 41 mag. I really like it, but you will need a heater in the winter.

 

[RedHawk357Mag]

Since we are talking lubes... mostly use Carnuba Red, making the switch to BAC, I bought a few sticks of 2500 to check out as well. Before I use a lube I let it sit in garage a year or so to check it's ability to withstand the temps my ammo locker goes through. Carnuba and BAC do just fine but I noticed that the 2500 is sweating pretty good in the heat so I kinda don't want to actually have loads sitting through the summer with it. Just wondering if any of you have had it exposed to similar heat and had any issues. Probably right answer is to hand jam a box of fifty and test fire next fall. I bought some old Rapid Delivery 200 grn SWCs from guy who was getting out of the game. While sitting in the boxes the lube ran off those bullets. Thanks.

 

[fiver]

if your in a high heat area and only going to be shooting in 40-F or higher temps then a high melt lube is what you want.
something with carnuba, or a high temp micro-wax is what you want. [a 160-180 ish melt point and a 120-F flow point]

Carnuba red doesn't work for me about 8 months out of the year, BAC modified slightly [with a lithium grease] does fine year round, and I prefer something softer.
a lube that sweats... no.
too much oil and it will reflect that trait on the paper.

 

[RedHawk357Mag]

Appreciate the informative answer Fiver. If I could trouble you additionally... modified slightly... if you could elaborate a little on that. I figured I would pinch lube a few of straight BAC to establish what a baseline of BAC is like and dabble a bit with the modified to broaden my knowledge on cause and effect of lube. I am assuming you push the BAC to be slightly more sticky, and I also assume you want the least amount of lube boogers on your target backer as possible? Thanks again for your shared information.