Crime in your neighborhood?

[Petrol & Powder]

All traffic citations are handled by criminal courts. Class C misdemeanor.

I think we're saying the same thing.

Traffic offesnses are criminal (meaning you versus the state and the standard to convict is beyond a reasonable doubt).
However, the penalty is generally only a fine and a custodial arrest is rare. Most charges are commenced by summons.

It's no different in Virginia. We hear traffic cases in General District court (lower court) and label traffic offenses as infractions. They are in fact criminal offenses but the punishment is generally only a fine.

 

[RBHarter]

Nevada had the option at 15 over for reckless driving as a standard add on . Circa 1979 56-69/55 was a $15 wasting energy ticket so the auto add on was seldom used on open highway . Bearing in mind that most of the highways didn't have speed limits until the national 55 was implemented.

Arkansas at least in Scott county if you plead out w/o excuses they will split the fine no report . Honesty still pays I guess .

Reckless driving would be posted as as a criminal act . After the tree incident a stack caged rock fence is on my list of things to do. There was nothing for the tree kill except the citation for failure to maintain a lane w/accident , leaving the scene .

It is what it is I guess . Nobody in their right mind would stay somewhere where they had a probability of being robbed , raped , shot , assaulted , or involved in a fatality MVA every 10 days .....yet that's how 800 per 10,000 comes out , and people love it there .

 

[Bret4207]

All traffic citations are handled by criminal courts. Class C misdemeanor.

Very different from here. Like I said, apples to apples. Can't possibly make any sense if everything is that different from state to state.

 

[Michael]

Shots fired last night
My small town = 0
Minneapolis = about 100 (the orange dots are multiples, yellow dots are singles)

Jon,
Can it tell the difference between shots and really good fire crackers...... That could really skew the stats, light the fuse on a 50 piece pack of Black Cats, then toss it out the window, repeat 2 blocks later.

 

[RicinYakima]

Oh yes! And between pistol and rifle and shotgun. Technology has been used in big cites for at least 20 years.

 

[Michael]

Interesting, I have often wondered about that, now I know.

 

[Tom]

Here you go, have fun with it: https://crimegrade.org/crime-by-zip-code/

Interestingly, my area is yellow but the airforce base next to here is red.

 

[JonB]

Jon,
Can it tell the difference between shots and really good fire crackers...... That could really skew the stats, light the fuse on a 50 piece pack of Black Cats, then toss it out the window, repeat 2 blocks later.

I don't know for sure, but if "they" were asked, I'm sure the answer would be they have an advanced algorithm the takes out any false bangs.

 

[JonB]

google to the rescue.

"ShotSpotter has a 97% accuracy rate, including a 0.5% false positive rate, for real-time detections across all customers over the last three years. This was derived directly from police department reporting and has been independently confirmed by Edgeworth Analytics, a data science firm in Washington, D.C."

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[Tom]

I've been lucky, I guess. One armed robbery attempt in Manhatten outside the chemical bank. Another at a rest area just north of Sacramento and a strong arm robbery attempt at a stop and rob near my home. All three turned out in my favor with no police reports filed. I currently live in a trailer park and have good neighbors. (Yeah, I know, trailer trash!) The couple of problems we've had in the last 2 years were handled "in house". One incident "might" have been witnessed by a deputy that might of said we were on dangerous ground.
While population density is a factor in crime, I do think community is a big factor. You're not welcome here is a good message to send.

 

[462]

My city's last police chief was an affirmative action hire (in my opinion) and a community organizer, which he proved when he took a Black Lives Matter knee. Whether he was told to look for a new job, after the incident, or he decided on his own I don't know, but it was but a short time later that he left for Oakland. Ironically, Oakland's crime has increased since he became its chief.

The chief prior to him was a chief-ette, and it didn't take too long for her to ruffle the force's feathers and for them to give her a vote of no confidence.

Our new chief is home-grown and started Day One with a tough on crime attitude and action plan, and the results have been noticeable.

 

[CZ93X62]

My city's last police chief was an affirmative action hire (in my opinion) and a community organizer, which he proved when he took a Black Lives Matter knee. Whether he was told to look for a new job, after the incident, or he decided on his own I don't know, but it was but a short time later that he left for Oakland. Ironically, Oakland's crime has increased since he became its chief.

The chief prior to him was a chief-ette, and it didn't take too long for her to ruffle the force's feathers and for them to give her a vote of no confidence.

Our new chief is home-grown and started Day One with a tough on crime attitude and action plan, and the results have been noticeable.

I award style points in such instances.

 

[RicinYakima]

Since 1996, the city managers in my city hire from outside the department for Fire Chiefs and Police Chiefs. If you want to hire a sycophant, you don't hire someone who has worked there for 20 years, you get a politician from some other area.

 

[Petrol & Powder]

I’ve seen those positions filled by both methods (hiring from within the agencies or going outside the agency for candidates). Neither method is superior. If you only select from within the agency, you have a very small pool to draw from and you are likely to get someone whose only qualification was not getting fired for 20 years. If you go outside the agency, you have a bigger pool of candidates, but your only knowledge of the candidate comes from what you learn of them during the selection process. Often, you’re just getting someone else’s problem child that they are happy to get rid of.

There are a lot of politics involved in those processess.

 

[L Ross]

Since 1996, the city managers in my city hire from outside the department for Fire Chiefs and Police Chiefs. If you want to hire a sycophant, you don't hire someone who has worked there for 20 years, you get a politician from some other area.

Boy howdy, you got that right. Instead of hiring someone who might actually have an affinity for his or her home town and the people in that town and Department, you hire some son of a bitch who uses Chief jobs to climb to bigger and bigger departments. That political whore leaves disaster in his or her wake. Any further comment on the weasels who hire such power hungry skunks will tread on turf I must avoid.

 

[Bret4207]

I don't know for sure, but if "they" were asked, I'm sure the answer would be they have an advanced algorithm the takes out any false bangs.

Yeah, and we all know how good algorithms work...

 

[Bret4207]

Boy howdy, you got that right. Instead of hiring someone who might actually have an affinity for his or her home town and the people in that town and Department, you hire some son of a bitch who uses Chief jobs to climb to bigger and bigger departments. That political whore leaves disaster in his or her wake. Any further comment on the weasels who hire such power hungry skunks will tread on turf I must avoid.

Amen. For decades my outfit promoted from outside the Division. But we're talking former military officers, judges, MD's and the like. Then we got to promoting the head out of the ranks. That went well for the most part, right up until they started getting points for politics. That has not gone well at all, nor did trying a guy out of the NYPD or one of our attorneys that was never a Trooper, but got a shield and qualified to wedge his tubby bod into a grey bag (uniform) so that he looked like a plump sausage. The whole idea of "police chief" being a career is wrong IMO. They're just another bureaucrat with zero clue about policing.

 

[Rick H]

The job of Police Chief is a peculiar one. Since the basic policy decisions that involve where the funding comes from rests solely with the political body i.e. the city council, county commission, state or federal legislatures, the chief has to have one foot in the political arena. He/she has to have the moxy to garner the respect of the department as well. To be effective they have to be competent in both worlds. The problem is finding and maintaining the proper balance. Elected Sheriffs are by definition political. One hopes they are also competent in administration and law enforcement knowledge as well.

 

[Petrol & Powder]

I think Rick hit the nail on the head. It's a rare combination to find someone that is competent in both worlds (political and the actual service).

I've seen those positions filled from within and outside the agencies and there is no clear winner to the method of filling those posts.

If you only promote from within, you have a small pool of candidates. Those people come with friends and enemies within that agency and the politics cannot be avoided.

Selecting from outside gives you a bigger pool of candidates but brings with it other problems. Do you alienate the people that were loyal to the agency for decades by passing them over? Are you just getting the problem child from another agency?

As I stated before, I don't think there is a clear method that is superior. I've seen both methods succeed and fail with nearly equal odds.

 

[popper]

There probably are good candidates for CoP but political climate dictates who gets hired. Dallas might have a good one this time but Dems will hamstring him like the others.