CWLongshot is improving .

Don't cough or sneeze if you have a hernia.
Doc looked at voice box this morning, maybe a cyst on it. Gonna biopsy later. Yea. As a kid in the early 50s there was a saying for other kids that gave you trouble, or you didn't like. 'up your nose with a rubber hose'. Now I know! The other one was 'your mom wears combat boots'. I could have let her use the bore scope and saved some $. NOT.

popper said:

Don't cough or sneeze if you have a hernia.
Doc looked at voice box this morning, maybe a cyst on it. Gonna biopsy later. Yea.

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Oh boy you got that right. Had hernia surgery in 2005. The pre-surgical consult was in a clinic and the day I went was full of little yard apes coughing and wearing masks. I touched nothing. Washed my hands on the way in and the way out. Had surgery 4 or 5 days later, came down with a respiratory flu the day after and coughed for 16 days in a row. Hugging a pillow and holding ice on surgical area. It was awful.

Doc just told me hernia was fixed and 'stop riding the motorcycle'. Not the problem. Lifting a water heater full of caliche was.

popper said:

Doc just told me hernia was fixed and 'stop riding the motorcycle'. Not the problem. Lifting a water heater full of caliche was.

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Can't ride a bike??!! Well that sucks. I think I'd get a second opinion or maybe another doctor.

No added salt has been my diet for a long time. But admittedly we have backed off reading labels as stringently.

But I dont eat red meat ir most of the "bad stuff"

Obviously I ate enough of it to bee too much!!

CW

Didn't stop me after recovery. Son called, still has infection in knee so goes back on pic line for 6 weeks. Talks to surgeon tomorrow to see if it needs 'cleaning out' again.

Salt for me is on sweet corn and tomatoes out of the garden

Tommy +1 on eating habits.

popper said:

Doc just told me hernia was fixed and 'stop riding the motorcycle'. Not the problem. Lifting a water heater full of caliche was.

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Stop riding the motorcycle! What the hell. No one needs that kind of negativity in their lives. I wonder if the doctor was neutered as a pup?

i think he said stop taking the motorcycle off those sweet jumps, and you just misheard.

i've always been pretty light on the salt, maybe a sprinkle if it needs it, but i'll shake the pepper around pretty much anything.

CWLONGSHOT said:

I can hope that maybe my younger age may make a older man think twice.
My good friend Mike is already feeling this as I appeared better shape then he and two years younger. He is much heavier by nearly 100# more stressfull job. I eat better then he does Struck too close ta home for her!

He brought half a dish over last night his wife made heart healthy.

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It's that weight that can be the killer. Not that skinny, in shape guys don't just drop dead on occasion, but the weight brings the Diabetes, the joint issues, the hips and knee issues, the heart and lung issues, Wuhan Flu issues, etc. I hate watching my weight, I hate not being able to eat what I want, I hate not being able to go out to a meal and actually enjoy something because all I can eat is the meat. OTOH, arthritis can be excruciatingly painful. That's reason enough for me to stick with it. Dying would be an even better reason!!! I hope your friend takes it to heart, pun intended. Atkins works and it's a mans diet, no going hungry. It's worth a look if he doesn't have sugar issues that preclude it.

FWIW- my cholesterol levels dropped like a rock when I lost 60 lbs. It's not the fat in red meats, fish, eggs and poultry that cause high cholesterol much of the time. It's the weight we carry and what it does to our systems that cause the above mentioned to raise an already high cholesterol level even higher. It's also the additives, chemical preservatives, colorings, stabilizers, etc. that cause issues. Plain old lard that was said to be fatal for years turns out to be pretty benign compared to the processed garbage we have been told is "better" for us. We'd probably see heart disease in the US drop to record levels if we all stopped eating processed food and drinks. Think about all the kids with autism that we see today. It's not all related to changes in what qualifies as being "on the spectrum"!

CWLONGSHOT said:

No added salt has been my diet for a long time. But admittedly we have backed off reading labels as stringently.

But I dont eat red meat ir most of the "bad stuff"

Obviously I ate enough of it to bee too much!!

CW

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Don't beat yourself up, CW. Some folks just make cholesterol. The guy that had the quint bypass was a very healthy eater. I used to bust his chops about living on oats and treebark. When he had bloodwork done after healing up from his surgery, his cholesterol was still thru the roof. Doc said that his body simply made it. Had to go on meds to control it. That was a long time ago. I've been retired for 9 years and left the region he was in in 2006 so that's another 7 years. Geesh, just realized that puts him in his 90's. I'll have to ask him when I see him. He sure does not look that old. I may be mistaken about when he had his surgery. He might have been in his 60's. Regardless, it was at least 20 years ago and he's still going strong. He's obviously from good breeding stock. He's Czech if I remember right. Joined the US Army in Europe after WWII ended and that got him US citizenship. His name is Boris and I'm not joking when I say he looks like a blonde version of Boris Badinoff. But he's a great guy. He's got Boris' accent too. Someday I should ask him to say, "Moose and squirrel".

And they told me ten years ago that the cholesterol number is only an indicator; it is how much is sticking to the walls of the arteries. My shooting buddy had a major heart attack at 45 with cholesterol number of 175. Each of us is different, so find a good doctor that will work with you.

The only problem with the Atkins diet is the cost of meat. But that can be lowered with eggs and fish you catch plus any game. In a year I dropped my A1C from 7.4 to 5.7 just by diet change. And I still allow myself 30 grams of carbs a day (and one meal a month with no restrictions).

@CWLONGSHOT Getting those blood thinners and heart meds can be a bit tricky sometimes especially if you are already on other meds. Especially concerning blood pressure .
They had to do a total work around with all of my meds. Two months of blood tests but final got it all figured out.
It will come.
Just don't over do things like I just did. Listen to the doctor. I did not, Put myself back a week. Rest means rest.

RicinYakima said:

And they told me ten years ago that the cholesterol number is only an indicator; it is how much is sticking to the walls of the arteries. My shooting buddy had a major heart attack at 45 with cholesterol number of 175. Each of us is different, so find a good doctor that will work with you.

The only problem with the Atkins diet is the cost of meat. But that can be lowered with eggs and fish you catch plus any game. In a year I dropped my A1C from 7.4 to 5.7 just by diet change. And I still allow myself 30 grams of carbs a day (and one meal a month with no restrictions).

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I just had 6 month physical and the A1c's checked. 6.3, that is the best it ever has been. Down on my weigh by 37 lbs. Cholesterol at 187.
Might have to treat myself to a night out at the Buffett to celebrate. LOL
But seriously have just been following the ADA 1200 calories 50 carb diet, with 1 cheat of a serving per lable of anything I want 2 hrs before bedtime.

All this talk about salt.
I've been hankerin to open a can of spam for some time. It's one of those meats that doesn't need salt added.
I used it this morning for breakfast tacos, Minnesota style, LOL.
Then I made a spammy melt sammich for lunch...it was so good, I may have that for supper as well...life of a bachelor, let me tell ya.
The trick with Spam, don't eat the whole can in one sitting, spread it out for 3 or 4 meals

Easy research will show Big Medicine's low salt intake advise is not one to put all your faith in, and can be contradictory to good health even for those who suffer from hypertension and/or heart disease. Political correctness and authoritarianism have pretty much eliminated genetics and ethnicity from the overall picture.

I'm not a medical professional, so you may take the above with a grain of salt (pun intended), however, as with any medical concern, do your own diligent research and proceed from there.

so yer sayin i might not die from eating 4 Bacon sandwiches for lunch today?
to be fair i made them with wheat bread, and washed them down with a glass of milk.

fiver said:

so yer sayin i might not die from eating 4 Bacon sandwiches for lunch today?
to be fair i made them with wheat bread, and washed them down with a glass of milk.

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Exactly. Unless, of course, your genetics and ethnicity dictate otherwise, then you may as well enjoy white bread and a Dr. Pepper. Same goes for Jon and that can of WW II SPAM he ate today.

Oops, Dr. Pepper has either sugar or aspartame in it and either will kill you, according to those who push a
low-salt-diet-for-everyone agenda.

Dr. Adkins died. At 72 Weighing 258 lbs. Suffered from cardiomyopathy, brought on from a virus during his adult life.
What killed him was an Icy sidewalk, and a hit on the head going down, Then the resulting blood clot on the brain.

Soy take from this is, eat how you like but wear a helmet when you go outside in the winter.

RicinYakima said:

And they told me ten years ago that the cholesterol number is only an indicator; it is how much is sticking to the walls of the arteries. My shooting buddy had a major heart attack at 45 with cholesterol number of 175. Each of us is different, so find a good doctor that will work with you.

The only problem with the Atkins diet is the cost of meat. But that can be lowered with eggs and fish you catch plus any game. In a year I dropped my A1C from 7.4 to 5.7 just by diet change. And I still allow myself 30 grams of carbs a day (and one meal a month with no restrictions).

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I agree, it can be expensive if you eat all store bought. Fortunately I don't. Oddly the really expensive part for me is cheese and the fiber replacer that I have to use to "keep things moving", if you follow me. (If I didn't eat the chesese I wouldn't need the fiber!!!) You have to get the sugar free stuff and it's pretty expensive. I learned to buy online, not at local super markets and surely not at a drugstore! I won't eat garbage food. There is good cheese and lousy cheese. I'm not eating sour, bitter store brand "cheddar" that has pretty much no milk in it! Same for the over processed Oscar Mayer type cold cuts. And cottage cheese! I love cottage cheese, it's my treat, but only one local brand that is heads above anything else. (Wins at the NYS Fair every year.) When you buy the good stuff it's going to cost more, but how much do you really eat? You also learn to look at the "meat" and check those carbs because a lot of "meat" is full of cereal fillers! A fast food hamburger might have 10 grams of carbs in the "meat" alone! I try to stay under 10 grams a day. Works for me and I don't imagine my food bill for a day for myself is near what anyone who grabs a Mickey Dees for lunch pays, and I could eat for days on what one decent pizza costs!

Maybe others can do the "splurge one day a month" thing, but that one day messes up your ketosis for 3 or more days. It's not for everyone, but I'm not a big veggie/sweets guy in the first place. Pasta, bread and potatoes though! Those are the tough ones to give up for me. To each their own, I just want people to know it's an option, it works good, it's not at all "unhealthy" and you don't have to be hungry all the time.