case lube
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CWLONGSHOT
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It dosent work the same. I temember reading a reason but do not remember. Possibly how it evaporates... its used as a carrier.
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RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Denatured alcohol is 60% water around here, and made from ethanol. Evaporation rate here in the desert is about 12 hours, unknown where you are. If you do this and all the alcohol is not evaporated, you will stick cases half the time. FWIW
Petrol & Powder
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Technically, denatured alcohol is ethanol with poison added to it so that it doesn’t have to be taxed and regulated like ethanol intended for human consumption. A lot of alcohol sold as Denatured alcohol is simply methanol. Sometimes denatured alcohol is ethanol with methanol added to it to make it poisonous.
Isopropyl alcohol, sometimes referred to as rubbing alcohol, is one of the many alcohols used for industrial purposes or external medical uses (disinfecting, cleaning, etc.) Most isopropyl alcohol actually has water added to it (usually about 20%-30% by volume) but you can find it nearly pure in some applications.
Small amounts of Methanol or Isopropyl alcohol can be fatal if ingested.
Ethanol is also poisonous, but the amount needed to be fatal is much higher than the fatal amounts of methanol or isopropyl. Accidental deaths from acute alcohol poisoning occur frequently. Typically, those deaths occur when someone consumes an excessive amount of ethanol (liquor) over a short period of time. Young adults in a college environment are common victims. Fortunately, most people will vomit or become unconscious before enough alcohol can be absorbed into the blood to reach fatal levels. But there’s always that special snowflake that drinks an entire bottle of 190 proof Everclear to prove how tough he is. Maybe that’s just Darwin at work?
For many industrial uses of alcohol (solvents, carriers, fuel, cleaners, etc.) it really doesn’t matter which type of alcohol is used. We just want it to be cheap and sometimes we don’t want extra water in the solution. The problem with isopropyl alcohol is that it often has water in it and it can be more expensive than methanol.
Isopropyl alcohol, sometimes referred to as rubbing alcohol, is one of the many alcohols used for industrial purposes or external medical uses (disinfecting, cleaning, etc.) Most isopropyl alcohol actually has water added to it (usually about 20%-30% by volume) but you can find it nearly pure in some applications.
Small amounts of Methanol or Isopropyl alcohol can be fatal if ingested.
Ethanol is also poisonous, but the amount needed to be fatal is much higher than the fatal amounts of methanol or isopropyl. Accidental deaths from acute alcohol poisoning occur frequently. Typically, those deaths occur when someone consumes an excessive amount of ethanol (liquor) over a short period of time. Young adults in a college environment are common victims. Fortunately, most people will vomit or become unconscious before enough alcohol can be absorbed into the blood to reach fatal levels. But there’s always that special snowflake that drinks an entire bottle of 190 proof Everclear to prove how tough he is. Maybe that’s just Darwin at work?
For many industrial uses of alcohol (solvents, carriers, fuel, cleaners, etc.) it really doesn’t matter which type of alcohol is used. We just want it to be cheap and sometimes we don’t want extra water in the solution. The problem with isopropyl alcohol is that it often has water in it and it can be more expensive than methanol.
Rally
NC Minnesota
I started with RCBS lube then went to STP in a deodorant roll on bottle to apply to the pad. Still use brushes for bottle neck cases, a handful at a time. I spray Rem oil on a towel and “toss” all my pistol ammo a few times then into ammo cans. Bottle neck all get hand wiped with REM oil. I’ve got ammo stored like this over 20 years old and still lubricated. The REM oil just seems to thin the STP and last forever I guess.
I tried the lanolin alcohol spray, still have a bottle full, but just prefer the way I was doing it and it works for long term storage.
I tried the lanolin alcohol spray, still have a bottle full, but just prefer the way I was doing it and it works for long term storage.
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CWLONGSHOT
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I like it as a release agent for glass bedding!! I dont think the "material" is any better but that spray application gets everywhere better then rubbing it on.
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FrankCVA42
Active Member
I use Lucas red-N_Tacky in a more conventional way. Works great greasing all the grease fittings on my tractor, battery terminals and whatever needs greasing. Still have a couple tins of Unique case lube and Imperial sizing wax. A little dab will do ya. Frank
Mowgli Terry
Active Member
Imperial wax is basic here and has been for over thirty years. I was told that Imperial is really an industrial product. Hopes are to find out. Of late, there has been some case forming here that has even strained Imperial to the max. Real case forming is when the search is on for a cheater bar for the Rockchucker.
Also, Imperial makes a neck lube that comes with media. It's neat stuff and does a great job. I ran across some more recent RCBS case lube that was not repackaged STP. This lube worked and handled much better than in the old RCBS goop.
Also, Imperial makes a neck lube that comes with media. It's neat stuff and does a great job. I ran across some more recent RCBS case lube that was not repackaged STP. This lube worked and handled much better than in the old RCBS goop.
Ian
Notorious member
I'm still milking that 2-ounce bottle of lanolin, castor, gy-hto esters, and neatsfoot oil that I made up like six years ago. The version with lard oil just had too much stanky to it.
It's almost painful to read all the work some of you do to lube the inside of a case neck. Here's what I do: roll the cases on a pad to lube the body, like ten at a time. Pick the closest one and give the mouth a light twist on a corner of the pad which is only slightly lubed. Voila, you just lubed the outside AND inside of the neck because the die and the expander ball will carry that little film the length of the neck and you won't have excess inside or denting the shoulders.
It's almost painful to read all the work some of you do to lube the inside of a case neck. Here's what I do: roll the cases on a pad to lube the body, like ten at a time. Pick the closest one and give the mouth a light twist on a corner of the pad which is only slightly lubed. Voila, you just lubed the outside AND inside of the neck because the die and the expander ball will carry that little film the length of the neck and you won't have excess inside or denting the shoulders.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Guys, I just use the lube film on my finger on the case mouth. That is plenty lubing with ISDW.
fiver
Well-Known Member
I dump a bunch of cases in a baggie and add a Q-tips worth of lube then if I remember I dump in some iso alcohol to cut the lube.
mush it all around and dump them out.
if I need inside lubing I just use a bore mop on a handle rub a little lube on the mop and grab a handful of cases and give the mop a quick poke in each case mouth.
If I'm just neck sizing I just wipe the mop down the side of a row of cases and give them a quick poke.
I like a little lube in my case necks no matter which type of bullet I use, but I definitely want a nice even something in the jacketed ones, it seems to help [with various issues] especially if I don't shoot them for 10-15 years.
mush it all around and dump them out.
if I need inside lubing I just use a bore mop on a handle rub a little lube on the mop and grab a handful of cases and give the mop a quick poke in each case mouth.
If I'm just neck sizing I just wipe the mop down the side of a row of cases and give them a quick poke.
I like a little lube in my case necks no matter which type of bullet I use, but I definitely want a nice even something in the jacketed ones, it seems to help [with various issues] especially if I don't shoot them for 10-15 years.
CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
I took a hint from a long-gone RCBS Reloading Manual for their T/C sizer dies in 30 Carbine--to lube every fifth case to smoothe case passage in the T/C die. I started rolling every third or fourth case going through T/C dies on the case lube pad, and sizing instantly became a lot less work. I have sort of a love/hate relationship with T/C sizer days anyway, and have ceased their usage in two revolver calibers and re-purposed the 45 Colt T/C die to process 45 ACP and AR cases.