454424 50/50 WW/20-1+copper comes out 94-2.5-3.2-.25 ish . 17yd @1000 fps . 24" through , hit a heavy rib going in near the spine exit near the elbow through the shoulder meats 3/4" hole in the shield grissel .
Same load 47 yd 12" through half inch exit through the shield .
Same load very much inside powder burn range , 36" through , just inside the right front shoulder , 2 ribs , half moon trough through the left ham inside the hide hole was about a half inch .
None recovered .
I liked the results with the original round lube groove Lyman single I bought a NOE 5c knock off . It shoots about the same , close enough for me anyway . It had to be kept sub sonic in the 1-32 twist of the carbine as when it hit the line coming down it would change direction about 40° up and right on a 60ft radius . I've been told that's not tumbling and has nothing to do with transonic speeds , wide nose , and slow twist ..... But whatever .......