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Ian

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No need for left-side loading or ejection, i have zeo issues ising right-handed leverguns. The issue is Henry's magazine tube will not clear a suppressor and the suppressor would need to be removed for loading which is a show-stopper for me. Ither than that, the .327 Federal 16.5" carbine would be about perfect.
 

popper

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AR15 barrel is 13/16-16UN x 0.624". AR10 is 1-16UN x 2". What is Marlin 357? Where did you get the FB plans? For a 2 piece stock I'd make a tang extension on front, tube and wood attached, free float the barrel - it's not a saddle gun. Kinda ruger #1 style. Paco did a version with steel rod on action supporting tube, threaded the tube IIRC.
 

fiver

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the 99 wouldn't have to be modified you could just change cases.
a 308 99 should be about as easy to find as a 366 or 94 marlin.
just shorten the case and keep the same bolt face, maybe have to add a little something to the back of the magazine, but a 1" long 308 case necked to 30 cal shouldn't be that difficult.
chopping a die? same thing.

just throwin it out there.. what's 3 grand?... LOL.
 

Ian

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I got a R700 '06 take-off barrel leaning in the corner. Canadian gent on boolits did a thread a couple years ago on a simple cylindrical-block FB with manual cocking hammer that can be made with a mini-lathe, a couple of reamers and end mills, and the normal lathe threading/facing tools plus the normal shop stuff like files, drill press, grinders, abrasive disk arbor.....and lots of time.

The design was a take on several with his own simplifications/modifications. I was impressed that he proofed the 45/70 with a load that loosened the Starline primer pocket without any change in headspace. The receiver can be made any size required and no heat treating is needed if the correct steel is used. Badgeredd was pretty interested in it and probably made one scaled to his cartridge but sadly people ruined the thread with an off-topic pissing match and both Edd and the OP dropped out of sight.
 

fiver

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you could also sand cast a frame out of brass.
I have seen AR's made from recycled brass cases.
 

Ian

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Hmmm. I just happen to have saved the set off of an old Towmotor that I scrapped out. The idea is to use 4140 prehardened steel for receivers and breech blocks, it's machinable as-is and requires no further heat treatment.
 

462

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Glad you changed your mind, Ian. That Henry and Marlin's version are pure abominations.
Black tactical lever actions rifles . . . yukko!
 

popper

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RB action is easy, mill main barrel block, side plates welded (or furnace brazed) to the main block. Good ship or oil welder knows how. Essentially a barrel extension with attached side plates. Basic same for FB. Thickwall steel rect. tubing with block inside. Lugs formed by backwall of the tubing. Internal parts are the difficult ones.
 

uncle jimbo

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Ian, if you do proceed to do this project, Please start a thread on it. I would love to see your progress and results. Lots of pictures.

paul
 

4060MAY

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Ian
I have been collecting single shot patent drawings for as long as Google patents has been available...want copies or patent numbers download them your self
there is nothing new under the sun, I also have DeHass's book on vault locks...available to you
Chuck
 
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4060MAY

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Popper
I learned how to drive in a Crosley, in 1953, the Crosley i learned in was 1940 or so, station wagon..I was 11...my father lost a lot hair that day
 

Ian

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I've been mulling over RicinYakima's kind offer for same, but I'm not after a vault lock and the other ideas of DeHaas' aren't really what I'm in the mood for. I'm trying to engineer my own thing with a cylindrical bolt, 90 degrees to bore axis instead of skewed, self-cocking, and with minimal drop (like a Farquartzen [sp?] action or Ruger #1 but with slightly exposed hammer). I would prefer a spurless rear hammer that cocks back and downward to be flush with the loading trough, but would have to also engineer a tang safety. Basically I'm looking at the layout of a Falling Block Works Model J, with a lot less drop in the action, in fact level with the barrel on the bottom profile. My biggest challenge so far has been trying to figure out how to attach tangs to the receiver. I'd also really like to use an AR-15 hammer, trigger, and sear but haven't quite sorted out a cocking mechanism or how to extend the hammer face forward about half an inch. Welding on a piece of 1/4x1/2" steel bar and then shaping to make a nose is likely going to be the solution to that problem and a tang safety would be easy to make work with an AR trigger.

I'm currently toying with the possibility of making integral tangs. The challenge is threading a hole in some hard material that sticks out from the faceplate 5". I may be able to make a jig for the faceplate which will brace the receiver billet sufficiently for the boring/threading operation and just mill the tangs out of the billet afterward like real gunsmiths do.
 
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4060MAY

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root around in the forum , look for a guy ALPHAWOLF45
the man is a genius, he has made more actions than most
really detailed when he posts, there are a lot of good machinists, and Ideas on the forum
 
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4060MAY

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have you ever seen DeHaass's book Single Shot actions their design and construction
I have number 376 of 2000, 1986 signed by Frank
some really neat ideas, some were even put into production
ever seen a Colt Sharps? had my hands on one once, not enough money at the time
I'm into Hepburns anyhow
sounds like you want a Farrow, Rodney Storie has castings
 

Ian

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The Dehaas book I've previewed contains four action designs with detailed drawings and instructions. Is that the one you have? Seems like I've run across Alphawolf45 here and there, but not recently. I'll check out the forum.

The Farrow 1887 is pretty much what I want, looking at the Storie castings. The profile is very close to my concept drawings and the extractor style, hammer/trigger arrangement, and link system are concepts I've picked as good ideas to copy from other designs.