Reloading book by Richard Lee?

JWFilips

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Any of you buy into his theory that Cast Bullets develop higher pressure then the same weight jacketed bullets?
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
That seems a bit counter-intuitive to me, and if you've ever had to drive jacketed bullets stuck in a barrel vs. cast/lead bullets you'll understand why succinctly.
 

Rick

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My experience also. Don't have the book but of what I have heard of in that book seems . . . . Odd. Probably why I don't have the book.
 

Walks

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Had the 1st book, never wasted money on the 2nd. Traded the 1st book for a Horndy # 1 at a gunshow, a very long time ago.
Only Reloading Manual I've ever gotten rid of.
 
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Tomme boy

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I am using jacketed data for my 350L and it goes right along with the jacketed data. I hit pressure right when the jacketed does.
 

JWFilips

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He appears to be the "Immanuel Velikovsky" of the Handloading world!
Pretty radical thoughts!
Worst purchase I ever made
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Never read it . Had one for a while and an ABCs of Reloading both of which I passed along as a PIF thing .

If they do it's because they're t taking up more case space with the short noses .
 

John

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I can see someone thinking that a bore rider wad cutter or rf creates more pressure with an identical load than a long bt bullet of the same weight. I believe that he would only test one lubed with Lee liquid mule snot so there is some sleight reasons for his thinking so. IME, with a chronograph identical charges usually give lower velocities to cast as there is less pressure because of less friction.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I have exceeded maximum jacketed speeds in 32 Rem and 30-30 with start to start minus 1 gr of 4350 . I don't know if it was raised pressure or the long burn at 3 under start , don't try this at home , with 150s in the 30-30 produced 150 fps under max load velocities and a few mummies suggesting pressures well under 42kpsi . The 32 Rem with 170s it was clean but I had nothing to suggest high pressure , 40 k I would say , well under max pressure but right at max velocities .
 

fiver

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he was also assuming the lead bullet plugged up the barrel better than jacketed.
of course he was also using pure tin and lead 50-50 for the BHN so his lead malleability number panned out too.

I have read the entire number-2 book from cover to cover more than once.
Richard thinks a lot different than I do, but he sure has some Roy Weatherby and Mr. Herter in him.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
He thought a lot of himself and his products, if that's what you're inferring. Mr. Weatherby and Mr. Herter were before my time, though I've read that they were excellent self-promotions.

What turned me off of his books, was his disparagement of his competitors' products. It's good capitalistic practice to truthfully promote one's product, but lowering oneself by disparaging the competition is sheer pettiness. Reading between the lines, it's easy to see that his shots were aimed primarily at RCBS.

For those so interested, both volumes are available for free downloads.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I have one of his olderManuals. Haven't seen the need to buy more as he Dosent make bullets powder or primers.

But in fairness this is the EXACT REASON i suggest new reloaders buy the LymanManual.
So there is that. :rofl::headscratch:

CW
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Mr Lee is/was an excellent businessman. But as far as being a reloading guru, I put him right up there with Larry Potterfields reloading and gunsmithing You Tube videos- someone else is writing the script and doing whatever leg work is involved.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
He appears to be the "Immanuel Velikovsky" of the Handloading world!
Pretty radical thoughts!
Worst purchase I ever made


I bought the A-Square "Any Load You Want" book some years back, full retail too. Useless for my applications, even more so than Lees. I don't even know if they are still around.