Reloading for 45 Auto Rim in S&W 1917

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Very nice Oscar! That's just about the outfit I want to set up, only I like 45 AR brass.
 

oscarflytyer

Well-Known Member
Ric - yes it DEF looks like it has been a long time holster queen in a humid environment!

Bret - I have a bunch of 45 AR brass (shot up factory reman'd ammo in Starline brass) now to reload as well. I like both. Everything I have read says they really like heavier bullets. Mine shoots my 45 ACP 200 LSWC load (H&G 68) well, and also a 230 LRN 45 ACP load, as well as the 230 LRN in the factory reman'd ammo. Have to say, it really hasn't shot anything bad. Not bad at all for a 1918 gun that has not had a lot of TLC! AND the price was right!
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I use the 45BD GB exclusively. I believe it's coming in around 240 gr in my alloy and is a sort of FN design. I tried some heavier loads but went back to a fairly tame Unique load that puts it in the factory hardball range. I also added a "Wondersight" to mine as my eyes and that hog wallow just weren't getting along. It rides in an horrible holster at the moment and I still lack the lanyard ring. But it's lovely to carry compared to some other guns of lesser caliber and I've used it on livestock and varmints. It reminds me of the 429421 in a 44 Spec. loaded reasonably, but with even less muzzle report. I like it. I just wish I'd had it back when I could really see.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
I shot mostly one load thru my S&W’s. That was a 250 swc and Unique. Was a neat looking lil boolit too short n squat as it was. Shot real fine too.
Id have to ck notes for actual recipe. But It was a goodun!
CW
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
Bret, I have a couple of Wondersights as well. I can't decide it I like them or not. On one hand they are adjustable and give a much better sight picture. On the other hand they look like crap and mess up the looks of the handgun.


Gun Parts Corp had replacement lanyard rings and pins.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I know they don't look so hot Chargar, but it takes me from 6" groups to half that (or less on a really good day) at 25yds and it allows me to put them in the middle of the bull and not 4" to the left. I've seriously considered adding on to my 32-20 Colt Army Special, but if I'm going to start butchering a gun, I might as well put a J frame adjustable sight on it. It will fit down in the hog wallow with just a little work. Ha! J frame sights used to be available for $12-15.00. Last time I looked they were more like $50-75! Shoulda bought a couple back in the day!

Yeah, Numrich has lanyard rings, but they're $25!!! It's a hunka steel with a ring in it!!!! I keep hoping I'll find one for half that or less. What can I say? I'm a cheap kinda guy. Don't even get me going on the Savage 99 parts I'm hunting. Those prices bring tears to my eyes!
 

Ian

Notorious member
Hey Bret, I got a sewer pipe .30-30 barrel for a 1908 you can have, it even has a tie rod end welded at right angles to it which makes installation a snap. :p
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Ian, your generosity knows no bounds! I'm deeply touched, but I'm going to have to pass on this incredible opportunity as I have several sewer pipes already, including one that pre-dates yours. The tie rod was almost a deal maker, but as it happens, I just found an old piece of 3/4" rebar in a ditch that should serve the same purpose. In the end, I feel there must be others out there far more deserving of such a rare and valuable commodity than I, but I remain, sir, your humble servant. ;)

Hey, speaking of welding, Gord was getting a little bored yesterday while I figuring out how to rebuild my buzzsaw, so I put him to practice welding with the stick machine. 6011 and a hunka 6" angle just following soap stone lines. I don't know the exact amps he was set at but it was enough that it was dead easy for me to start and hold an arc, a little hot really. Took him about 3,978 tries but he is finally starting to get the hang of it. Then I had to try to get him to slow down and weave. After 45 minutes or so he was doing pretty good. They start the kids off on MIG with brand new, sparkling clean metal at the trade school, which I think is a mistake. Give them 6010/11 and some good old rusty plate or bar stock and let them learn!
 

Ian

Notorious member
I can't imagine ANY decent welding course beginning with MiG, what is that supposed to teach them? Might as well hand them a hot-glue gun. Maybe starting with MiG is the "new way", let's build some false confidence first off so the kiddos don't get their feelings or egos hurt while struggling to get an arc started; I mean heaven forbid a person learn right off that welding is about heat and penetration and pushing and melted metal around to make solid fusion between two parts.
 
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RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Yep, my dad started me with a oxyacetylene set and clothes hangers on the broken farm equipment. I graduated when I could weld tin cans to patch holes is rusty exhaust pipes.
 
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Ian

Notorious member
Yup, I've built miles of exhaust systems with OA and hangers from the uniform closet.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Used to be coat hangers were good metal. 25-30 years ago they got cheap and the metal was different. I'm sure the old stuff was a grade of virgin mild steel. The newer stuff appears to be much harder, prone to cracking and just not good metal at all.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
I'm trying to justify the price on a local Colt 1917. All evidence suggests that it was part of the massive 1940 military revolver refurb program, but remains unfired since that time. I'm still hesitant about it for some reason. It appears to be an early Augusta Arsenal refurb, but I don't see the AA marking on the side of the frame. The gun has experienced some trauma in the past and the barrel was replaced, but bears the same military "batch" markings as the rest of the major components. The old girl locks up really tight.

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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Yeah, we're more like enablers rather than voices of reason and economy. It's a curse.... ;)
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
If you buy it, will the amount of money you spent on it change your life? Will you miss any meals or have to sleep in the rain? Life is short and a little joy once in a while doesn't do you any harm.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
I would be ALL OVER that N/S 1917 in a Detroit Second if it was locally-available. The only complicator for the old Colts is relative scarcity of aftermarket grips for many of them.