Shooting shack construction underway!
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Three tab shingles were and are,mainly based on material handling and installation by unskilled labor. Not saying roofers or forklift guys are dumbarses..... quite the opposite.
But compared to handling sheet metal?
Installation is one thing..... speed,versatility,and ease of repair/alterations makes asphalt shingles the easy button. They "took over" consumer logic post WWII.... which,was an extension of the previous several decades of Madison ave'esque attempts towards manipulating the building industry in the U.S.
Gets a little more complicated,but suffice it to say...... anything,residential construction related,in the post war years to come down the pike was the beginning of what HDTV has only reinforced. There's a sucker born every day.
But compared to handling sheet metal?
Installation is one thing..... speed,versatility,and ease of repair/alterations makes asphalt shingles the easy button. They "took over" consumer logic post WWII.... which,was an extension of the previous several decades of Madison ave'esque attempts towards manipulating the building industry in the U.S.
Gets a little more complicated,but suffice it to say...... anything,residential construction related,in the post war years to come down the pike was the beginning of what HDTV has only reinforced. There's a sucker born every day.
Ian
Notorious member
Finally finished grafting the sills to the foundation stones this morning, then scribed and saddled the end wall sills into place.
This is the wrong angle to show the inletting, but this post is sunk down 1-3/4" onto the rough surface if the stone. Had to use some smaller chisels to get this corner worked down.
This is the wrong angle to show the inletting, but this post is sunk down 1-3/4" onto the rough surface if the stone. Had to use some smaller chisels to get this corner worked down.
Gary
SE Kansas
Man!! That's going to be awesome. Couldn't help but think of the BARNWOOD BUILDERS and how they take down old 1800's structures and rebuild them for "new" construction. Just imagine in 150 yrs when this structure is discovered they'll be talking about the construction details and marveling at how sturdy it was made. That baby ain't going anywhere.
BTW, is the floor next or last on this project?
BTW, is the floor next or last on this project?
Ian
Notorious member
Due to the terrain and line of sight down my shooting lane I'm elevating the shooting position considerably, so the first two courses of logs will be only to gain height. The next course will be notched for the joist logs. I'll use a half-round notch to hold the ends of the joists and nip the top ends of the joists at an angle to lock into the next wall log above so they won't twist.
So, one more course and then a big slowdown while I get all the joists going. Once the floor is done I can put my bench back up there and use the range again temporarily.
So, one more course and then a big slowdown while I get all the joists going. Once the floor is done I can put my bench back up there and use the range again temporarily.
Ian
Notorious member
Jim, look at the photo Spindrift posted back on page one, that's pretty much exactly how I'll do it except it will be more of a desert rockscape with whatever grass I can get to grow up there.
The gable ends will be a scribed logs all the way up. The header logs and ridge pole will be longer to support rhe gable overhang. I'll use landscape timbers for rafters. The roof deck will be 3/4" cdx. The facia boards will be pressure-treated 2x10s, lapped in the traditional way. The rafter tails will be drilled and have pegs driven through the ends to hold a drip edge plank which holds all the roof material in place. Still haven't decided what to use for a wateroroof membrane, might just put down tar paper and cover that with a pond liner. The liner will be stapked to the top of the top facia board and a 2x4 screwed down flat on top of that to cover it, hide it, and hold it down. Then fill with at least a foot of dirt and rock, arrange some flat rocks to minimize erosion, and hope for the best.
The gable ends will be a scribed logs all the way up. The header logs and ridge pole will be longer to support rhe gable overhang. I'll use landscape timbers for rafters. The roof deck will be 3/4" cdx. The facia boards will be pressure-treated 2x10s, lapped in the traditional way. The rafter tails will be drilled and have pegs driven through the ends to hold a drip edge plank which holds all the roof material in place. Still haven't decided what to use for a wateroroof membrane, might just put down tar paper and cover that with a pond liner. The liner will be stapked to the top of the top facia board and a 2x4 screwed down flat on top of that to cover it, hide it, and hold it down. Then fill with at least a foot of dirt and rock, arrange some flat rocks to minimize erosion, and hope for the best.
F
freebullet
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Stellar work!
I've worked on some pretty "tight" houses over the last 5 decades.
"One" of the coolest,and gotta say something about the customer first. She was the Jackie O of the blue bloods. Had 4 sons,and pretty much adopted me as her 5th.... heck,she needed one black sheep? Not really,she loved me like a son....yada,yada.
Their house was actually sorta modest,leastwise in that particular zip code and their social tier ranking......
Built sometime in the late teens, early 20's. Two story,3 bay double pile with matching wings on both sides,painted brick.
It was the roof however that was so blooming bad arse. It was some sort of asbestos "mix"..... can't say for sure cause we never had to dink with it but hazzarding(ha) a guess would say that was accurate. The individual pieces had their lower edges shaped just enough so that it makes it look cool when done up,on the whole.
One wing was almost entirely covered with the brightest,most lush moss you ever did see. Walt Disney studios would've been impressed. She's long gone and I haven't been over there in years..... some numbskull probably pressure washed it all off years ago back when they first became the rage. But before....... that moss was on there for several decades and used to bring a smile every time I saw it.
"One" of the coolest,and gotta say something about the customer first. She was the Jackie O of the blue bloods. Had 4 sons,and pretty much adopted me as her 5th.... heck,she needed one black sheep? Not really,she loved me like a son....yada,yada.
Their house was actually sorta modest,leastwise in that particular zip code and their social tier ranking......
Built sometime in the late teens, early 20's. Two story,3 bay double pile with matching wings on both sides,painted brick.
It was the roof however that was so blooming bad arse. It was some sort of asbestos "mix"..... can't say for sure cause we never had to dink with it but hazzarding(ha) a guess would say that was accurate. The individual pieces had their lower edges shaped just enough so that it makes it look cool when done up,on the whole.
One wing was almost entirely covered with the brightest,most lush moss you ever did see. Walt Disney studios would've been impressed. She's long gone and I haven't been over there in years..... some numbskull probably pressure washed it all off years ago back when they first became the rage. But before....... that moss was on there for several decades and used to bring a smile every time I saw it.
Ian
Notorious member
Landscape timbers are not all created equal and it's really tough sometimes to get any useful information from the product description. Due to people using the "landscape timbers" to construct edible veggie beds (and probably a host of other reasons) most kinds are not treated with the good stuff anymore. Some are, though. Regardless, they still twist and warp and are usually made out of white pine/fir instead of the good yaller stuff.
Good, ground-contact rated 4x4x8 are going for nearly $10 a pop after tax, but I may have to use those if I can't find some better landscape timbers at an actual lumber yard. The use will not be ground contact, but the tails will be exposed for about 8" to the worst that Texas weather can throw at them so they need to not turn punky after a few years.
Good, ground-contact rated 4x4x8 are going for nearly $10 a pop after tax, but I may have to use those if I can't find some better landscape timbers at an actual lumber yard. The use will not be ground contact, but the tails will be exposed for about 8" to the worst that Texas weather can throw at them so they need to not turn punky after a few years.
fiver
Well-Known Member
i wish I could get decent landscape timbers for 10$
the pressure treated 4x4's here are more like 15$ a treated 2x6 is in the 8.50 range.
plain fir 2x6's are about 6$ and the shorter stud type have been on sale for 4$ recently.
I been trying to get Littlegirl to buy some of the shorter ones since they have been wanting to build some raised garden beds and that's about the most cost effective way to get some height.
there can't be too much shipping involved here since most of the tags read grown/cut in Idaho,
there is a pretty good chance they were grown and cut, up the canyon where I used to deer hunt behind the house.
the pressure treated 4x4's here are more like 15$ a treated 2x6 is in the 8.50 range.
plain fir 2x6's are about 6$ and the shorter stud type have been on sale for 4$ recently.
I been trying to get Littlegirl to buy some of the shorter ones since they have been wanting to build some raised garden beds and that's about the most cost effective way to get some height.
there can't be too much shipping involved here since most of the tags read grown/cut in Idaho,
there is a pretty good chance they were grown and cut, up the canyon where I used to deer hunt behind the house.