CWLONGSHOT
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Congratulations Emmett!!
so waht ya doin today?
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fiver
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Josh don't feel too bad, you simply didn't know.
now you do.
years back I took Littlegirl on a back pack hunt and we walked up a nice 4 point Buck, she was supposed to have first shot, but kept on hesitating on this particular deer.
I kept urging her to take the shot and she kept saying she didn't have one, finally he had enough of us and our non sense and took off.
I was kinda pissed off since I kept putting my rifle up on him and had a clean killing shot every single time.
we had already broke camp to move along that morning so we circled around and come home so I could pull up stuff on the computer and show her the different angles like that bear picture up above, and then show her some alternate angles and different places to hit a deer to put it down right where it was,, kill without damaging meat etc.
once she knew, she knew why I was getting upset about her no taking the shot.
now you do.
years back I took Littlegirl on a back pack hunt and we walked up a nice 4 point Buck, she was supposed to have first shot, but kept on hesitating on this particular deer.
I kept urging her to take the shot and she kept saying she didn't have one, finally he had enough of us and our non sense and took off.
I was kinda pissed off since I kept putting my rifle up on him and had a clean killing shot every single time.
we had already broke camp to move along that morning so we circled around and come home so I could pull up stuff on the computer and show her the different angles like that bear picture up above, and then show her some alternate angles and different places to hit a deer to put it down right where it was,, kill without damaging meat etc.
once she knew, she knew why I was getting upset about her no taking the shot.
L Ross
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I know traditional corned beef utilizes the brisket. When we corned bear we just used large muscle chunks and submerged the chunks in a corning brine. In addition to using Prague powder #1 in the cure there are pickling spices, bay leaves, pickling salt, brown sugar cracked black pepper and water. Use a brining pump to inject the brine deep into the muscle. If I remember right the chunks stayed submerged in the brine in a fridge for 3 days. Then we cooked a big chunk in a large kettle over an open fire at a rendezvous. That got served with cabbage, potatoes, carrots, and rutabagas. We had other campers coming over with bowls to get some. The rest we cubed up and pressure canned it. And man o' man does canned corned bear make fabulous corned bear hash!
We took and entire hind of a medium small bear and brined it for a ham then smoked it for hours. We used a stitching pump to inject the brine every where in the hind with special attention to get the area around the bone. The back loin went into chops. All of the trim got ground, mixed with venison and some pork and made into sausage, smoked andouille was a favorite.
The best thing you did for good eating bear was to skin it promptly, and get the carcass cooled ASAP.
All in all congratulations on a job well done and a fine animal as a result.
We took and entire hind of a medium small bear and brined it for a ham then smoked it for hours. We used a stitching pump to inject the brine every where in the hind with special attention to get the area around the bone. The back loin went into chops. All of the trim got ground, mixed with venison and some pork and made into sausage, smoked andouille was a favorite.
The best thing you did for good eating bear was to skin it promptly, and get the carcass cooled ASAP.
All in all congratulations on a job well done and a fine animal as a result.
This:
Nothing you should feel bad about. You got a less-than-optimal hit (happens to everyone at some point), and on your first big game animal. Then you stuck to a trail through 6 hours and 700 yards of heavy vegetation.
CWLONGSHOT
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Its goes that way sometimes!!! Some years ago, my largest buck took a solid high lung shot angling down, @ 75-80 yards. No exit but bullet lodged in off (bottom) side brisket. With only one lung hit.
He took me on a merry jaunt! uphill on snow NO BLOOD! I took my time as I saw that mule kick and knew my shot and rifle. I found him a solid 600+ yards dead. Only blood was 10' from his 260# body!!
He took me on a merry jaunt! uphill on snow NO BLOOD! I took my time as I saw that mule kick and knew my shot and rifle. I found him a solid 600+ yards dead. Only blood was 10' from his 260# body!!
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
I want to thank all of you for the encouraging words.
Bear update: Sad news, we lost the front quarters, we didn’t get it cold enough/fast enough. It had gone bone sour.
Day time temps were in the mid 60’s, night time lows in high 30’s.
I sure have learned a whole bunch the hard way. First bears are different than deer. You can’t treat them the same. They are too well insulated. You should break them down in the field. We skinned this bear when we got back to the cabin that evening. Shot the bear at 7am, gutted by 1pm, retrieved and in the Suburban by 4pm, got some ice into the chest cavity at 6pm, hung up by 8:30pm, and finally skinned by midnight.
We had run into town for ice and to call my hunting partners father to ask for advice on what to do next. The father had experience with bears. He told us to skin it immediately, that we had to get it cooled down.
What I will do differently next time.
Skin and Quarter the bear in the field. Possibly bone it out if it’s really warm. Carry four game bags instead of just one. And, don’t leave a skinned bear whole, continue to beak it down into quarters.
The back hams were ok, they smelled fine. We ground up about half of the meat, and left the rest in roast size pieces
I also rendered two quarts of bear grease last night, and froze the rest of the fat unprocessed.
Bear update: Sad news, we lost the front quarters, we didn’t get it cold enough/fast enough. It had gone bone sour.
Day time temps were in the mid 60’s, night time lows in high 30’s.
I sure have learned a whole bunch the hard way. First bears are different than deer. You can’t treat them the same. They are too well insulated. You should break them down in the field. We skinned this bear when we got back to the cabin that evening. Shot the bear at 7am, gutted by 1pm, retrieved and in the Suburban by 4pm, got some ice into the chest cavity at 6pm, hung up by 8:30pm, and finally skinned by midnight.
We had run into town for ice and to call my hunting partners father to ask for advice on what to do next. The father had experience with bears. He told us to skin it immediately, that we had to get it cooled down.
What I will do differently next time.
Skin and Quarter the bear in the field. Possibly bone it out if it’s really warm. Carry four game bags instead of just one. And, don’t leave a skinned bear whole, continue to beak it down into quarters.
The back hams were ok, they smelled fine. We ground up about half of the meat, and left the rest in roast size pieces
I also rendered two quarts of bear grease last night, and froze the rest of the fat unprocessed.
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Rockydoc
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When dressing an animal take care to identify and preserve the femoral artery. Then when pumping brine, put the needle in that artery and it will go everywhere, evenly. I was a butcher in my youth, and I have done many hundreds of hams that way. It is easier and more even and more effective than infiltration injection.
CWLONGSHOT
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Im still working on my own video
but a friend put this one out tofay. Great views of whats actually occuring on our bait drops.
This guy doesn't fish "my spots" but he is in LIS generally on the NY side.
CW
but a friend put this one out tofay. Great views of whats actually occuring on our bait drops.
This guy doesn't fish "my spots" but he is in LIS generally on the NY side.
CW
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
What a day! Absolutely gorgeous, but I was working too hard to enjoy it much. Pulled the Massey 65 with the Continental 4 cyl gas engine back apart to install the new head gasket. The head had been out last year for a valve job and was planed flat too. I should have replaced the head gasket then but I didn't. After another removal and re-torque of the head I had some weeping. So a new gasket and the old stand by of copper seal and no more weeping that I can see. I also, finally!, made a repair to the throttle I think will last. Comes down to a friction disc assy that was missing some parts and some other parts that needed welding. I even managed to make a weld repair to a spring with out ruining it. The old girl still needs some fine tuning, but it's doing fine now.
After that I got the skid steer spotted to start repairs on that but got called away to help with the church nativity scene. I thought we were just dragging the behemoth out, but no- we put that heavy sucker up! I opined it was waaaaay early, but the old guy (88 IIRC) that is footing the bills said he wasn't wasting a beautiful day and waiting till it was a muddy, frozen mess. Makes sense when you look at it like that. So up she went. I pulled a couple things in my back and shoulder of course, but it's up.
Storms rolling in tonight. Whats left of the autumn colors will be gone if this wind keeps up. No Indian Summer this year I guess.
After that I got the skid steer spotted to start repairs on that but got called away to help with the church nativity scene. I thought we were just dragging the behemoth out, but no- we put that heavy sucker up! I opined it was waaaaay early, but the old guy (88 IIRC) that is footing the bills said he wasn't wasting a beautiful day and waiting till it was a muddy, frozen mess. Makes sense when you look at it like that. So up she went. I pulled a couple things in my back and shoulder of course, but it's up.
Storms rolling in tonight. Whats left of the autumn colors will be gone if this wind keeps up. No Indian Summer this year I guess.
L Ross
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I enjoyed that very much. What is the size limit on your black fish?
fiver
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had a 14' rail road tie out front that I wanted out back.
so I got the snatch chain out and hand pulled the old 4 wheeler into life.
of course this was after I moved the little trailer back on the truck, and got the boat ready for winter.
this includes rolling it up on a couple of 12" square blocks then picking up the front end and getting it set up on a wooden block.
I knew when I picked up the end of the tie that I had done it wrong and would regret it but off we went.
due to the other stuff in the back yard I had to make about 19 different turns and then swap the chain from one end to the other to get it around some trees and one of the water lines.
yeah I was feeling it later, which didn't help when I started getting sick and having stomach pains.
never did get any sleep last night, or today, but my body kept on saying go to sleep stupid, and for the love of god find something to drink that you can keep down.
so I got the snatch chain out and hand pulled the old 4 wheeler into life.
of course this was after I moved the little trailer back on the truck, and got the boat ready for winter.
this includes rolling it up on a couple of 12" square blocks then picking up the front end and getting it set up on a wooden block.
I knew when I picked up the end of the tie that I had done it wrong and would regret it but off we went.
due to the other stuff in the back yard I had to make about 19 different turns and then swap the chain from one end to the other to get it around some trees and one of the water lines.
yeah I was feeling it later, which didn't help when I started getting sick and having stomach pains.
never did get any sleep last night, or today, but my body kept on saying go to sleep stupid, and for the love of god find something to drink that you can keep down.
CWLONGSHOT
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16" for Tautog.
L Ross
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Is there a slot? The guy on the video threw back a beauty. I do that with fish that though legal are great breeders and too valuable in the water to eat.
CWLONGSHOT
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Not for Black fish / Tautog no.
Striped bass there is a slot and one fish limit.
Yes they gro slow and live long. The biggest are usually females. We kept the first two biguns and threw rest back. Smaller eat better as fish big ones need soup! They get allot of red in the meat when they pass 5/7# 20" and less is a nice eatin size.
Striped bass there is a slot and one fish limit.
Yes they gro slow and live long. The biggest are usually females. We kept the first two biguns and threw rest back. Smaller eat better as fish big ones need soup! They get allot of red in the meat when they pass 5/7# 20" and less is a nice eatin size.
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Ian
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Yeah. That just started off all wrong. Kinda like I had 36 8-10' lengths of utility poles at the bottom of a hill that I wanted halfway UP the hill, and nothing but a foot path. Why do we do this to ourselves?
Next project is getting four tons of yellow masonry sand schlepped up there....
L Ross
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The older I got the more mechanized I got. Hell, I skin my deer with my Kubota tractor. I just put all the patio furniture up in the loft in the pole shed, with...the Kubota tractor. I needed to haul some 8' long steel target rails with legs from the back range to the yard...with the Kubota tractor.
Sue and I agree, some of the best money we ever spent was when we bought the Kubota. Never regretted it. Front end loader, snow plow, bush hog, back blade, forks, disc, well you get the idea.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I have a 350 lbs cast iron Vermont Castings stove I have to move to the second floor of our old farmhouse. Our stairway is narrow and very steep. OTOH, I did put a balcony off the area the stove has to go and I now own a tractor with enough lift and reach to get it up there and then some. Hydraulics are a wunnerful thing!
Huh. After all my success yesterday, such as it was, I went down to the basement last night to discover a load of damp dog blankets in the dryer. That sucker is locked up tight! SWMBO didn't even bother mentioning the "We should rent one until that can get fixed." idea. We tried that last winter with the washer and I paid more in rent than another washer would have cost! I think I have an extended warranty on the dryer, but I'm going to go grab one today until the busted one can be looked at. When laundry can't be done, all other projects come to a stop! The weather did cooperate long enough for me to get the blankets dry in the line, but today it's 100% chance of rain...and for the next 3 days. Lowes, here I come!
Huh. After all my success yesterday, such as it was, I went down to the basement last night to discover a load of damp dog blankets in the dryer. That sucker is locked up tight! SWMBO didn't even bother mentioning the "We should rent one until that can get fixed." idea. We tried that last winter with the washer and I paid more in rent than another washer would have cost! I think I have an extended warranty on the dryer, but I'm going to go grab one today until the busted one can be looked at. When laundry can't be done, all other projects come to a stop! The weather did cooperate long enough for me to get the blankets dry in the line, but today it's 100% chance of rain...and for the next 3 days. Lowes, here I come!
