What Did You Shoot Today?
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Ian
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I never heard of turning or slow-set wrapping epoxy either. But I'm so redneck that my several rod restoration/guide jobs involved fabric store polyester thread and clear fingernail polish. Spin the rod by hand for a few minutes per guide until enough solvent flashes off that the polish doesn't sag, then lean the rod in a corner for a day.
Loaded 100 rounds of 45 Colt with a coated NOE 454424 sized to .453 into Starline cases with a Tula LP and 6 gr of Promo. Pretty much all the Model 25 has ever been fed.
Went to the local indoor range and shot this group for first 6 shots at 10 yards. Not bad for my aging eyes.
Great revolver. It does need a taller front sight, it shoots high and the rear sight is as low as it will go.
Went to the local indoor range and shot this group for first 6 shots at 10 yards. Not bad for my aging eyes.
Great revolver. It does need a taller front sight, it shoots high and the rear sight is as low as it will go.
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smokeywolf
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Shot the 160 grn. SWCs propelled by 3.0 grns of BE in this.
A great pleasure to shoot. This old man shooting off-hand with shaky hands and shooting with non-dominant eye hit the 8" gong at 20 yards 20% of the time.
A great pleasure to shoot. This old man shooting off-hand with shaky hands and shooting with non-dominant eye hit the 8" gong at 20 yards 20% of the time.
Rockydoc
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Nice grips.
smokeywolf
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Thanks Doc, I'd like to take credit for those, but Dad was the stock maker. Also the saddle maker. Can say, and he said it himself, that I'm far better with metal working than he was.
462
California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Been testing the Ruger American .223 and Hornady 55-grain FMJs with several powders that either didn't work as planned with other cartridges, or are in partially filled containers. Tried 21.0-grains of IMR 4198, last week, and was mighty impressed. Re-shot it again this morning. It is the load.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
While that used to be the maximum 222 Remington benchrest load, it is a very good 223 load. That is one of my CZ's best loads with 52/55 match bullets.
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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Thanks, Ric.
I hadn't tested IMR 4198, prior to last week, because of its placement on the various burn rate charts. I'd been testing the H 335 through CFE 223 range without any results to write home about. IMR 4198 was pretty much a last ditch effort and am glad I discovered it.
I'm only two years into .223 ownership, but it's been an educational, enjoyable, and productive learning experience.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
The original 5.56 x 45 was designed around DuPont IMR 4198. Robert McNamara insisted on using WW ball powder because it was 5% cheaper than 4198. That lead to the horrible problems with the early M-16's in Viet Nam. Ball powders are dirty, leave fouling in the gas system and many other problems. It took 19 months for Olin to get a formula that would work in the M-16 system. Reference: The Black Rifle.
CWLONGSHOT
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I havent really seen large differences in powders with the few small caliber barrels I have loaded for, 748, H322/335, 2200, 2230, 4198, Benchmark, AR Comp. All have done a good job. Last two are newest to my use but have really shined, especially in the Grendel. The 223's have always come back to H322 and 748. Some crazy good groups have been shot in bolts, ar's and a single shot rifles. Even my contender pistol have shot them very well.
When I got a 25/45 (24" HB Sharps barrel) I saw a picky barrel. Everything shot acceptable, H335 was first to see consistant sub MOA groups but only with a 90g Sierra... But when I found some AA220, wow, it was hands down preferred and in reading many found same results. Most any loading with bullets 87-110 shot sub moa for me using aa2200, good velocity as well.
The lil Grendel shows favor for a few but also isnt overly picky. I also tried 2520 powder with some bullets its a very impressive little caliber. In both a bolt and MSR. I hover around 120g in this one as lighter simply pale to accuracy of heavier. But 85/90g bullets have shot moa. As I have smaller guns that do better, I stick with 120 ish.
The littler calibers like 22 Hornet & Bee 4198 is a shinning star. I did find little gun and a 35 Vmax bullet in the hornet from one H&R SS rifle was its only load that shot really well. 4198 just shines in the Contender, H&R and Winchester 43's.
But I consider all these barrel accuracy issues more then powder. Powder surely can be different Thats why there are lots recorded. Powder is a better constant at least in my perception.
CW
When I got a 25/45 (24" HB Sharps barrel) I saw a picky barrel. Everything shot acceptable, H335 was first to see consistant sub MOA groups but only with a 90g Sierra... But when I found some AA220, wow, it was hands down preferred and in reading many found same results. Most any loading with bullets 87-110 shot sub moa for me using aa2200, good velocity as well.
The lil Grendel shows favor for a few but also isnt overly picky. I also tried 2520 powder with some bullets its a very impressive little caliber. In both a bolt and MSR. I hover around 120g in this one as lighter simply pale to accuracy of heavier. But 85/90g bullets have shot moa. As I have smaller guns that do better, I stick with 120 ish.
The littler calibers like 22 Hornet & Bee 4198 is a shinning star. I did find little gun and a 35 Vmax bullet in the hornet from one H&R SS rifle was its only load that shot really well. 4198 just shines in the Contender, H&R and Winchester 43's.
But I consider all these barrel accuracy issues more then powder. Powder surely can be different Thats why there are lots recorded. Powder is a better constant at least in my perception.
CW
This is true. The original WW748 used in the first M-16's in Nam was terrible nasty dirty burning crap. Many of the problems attributed to the M-16 was actually the powder. After enough of our guys were killed because the M-16 was fouled so bad WW finally changed 748. Better but still the ball powder.
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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
"American Rifle, a biography" by Alexander Rose, mentions that Eugene Stoner developed the AR-15 using an IMR powder, but didn't say which one. I've read the same in articles, too, but, again, no mention of which one.
And, yes, the change to a ball powder was just one of McNamara's mis-guided policies that cost too many American GIs to be wounded or killed, unnecessarily prolonged the war, and lead to its ugly end.
smokeywolf
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IMR 4198 is a pretty good smokeless substitute for the holy black. The pressure curve is close enough to the black that I use it in an original Model '76 45-60.