Accurate 45-270K

[fiver]

i can't shoot a handgun with either hand, and barely with both.

but i can shoot a rifle or a shotgun with either no problem.
i have shotguns in both left and right handed models, but no left handed rifles, i just have to make do an flip them from one side to the other.

 

[Jwatts8815]

I’ve always been right hand right eye, but I’ve trained myself to shoot a handgun left handed not as good lefty, but I can shoot. Rifle I can shoot left without issue. I honestly think with time and practice you can teach yourself to shoot either or. Now a shotgun wing shooting, can hang that up. That’s too many motor skills going the wrong direction to get right. But I go between both eyes open to one eye it all depends on the day and the light. Putting as many rounds down rage as you are your putting in the practice necessary to make that motor skill a reflex. Keep it up and before you know it it will be natural.

Thank you sir!!

 

[RBHarter]

I finally got a lefty rifle , went to the range , and reached over the top of the scope to run the bolt with my right hand , just like I did all those years with my left hand on the right hand bolts . The struggle is real .

 

[Jwatts8815]

I finally got a lefty rifle , went to the range , and reached over the top of the scope to run the bolt with my right hand , just like I did all those years with my left hand on the right hand bolts . The struggle is real .

Haha MAN, I have thought about a lefty rifle SO many times but realized I’d probably just do the same. I have an expensive and time consuming suppressed SBR that I built, took the time to make sure EVERYTHING on that stupid AR was ambidextrous, I’ve never ONCE used anything but the right handed stuff haha

 

[Winelover]

All my bolt actions are LH. Cindy's are RH. The real advantage to a RH bolt is when a southpaw is shooting off a bench. Most of the time I'm hunting with a lever action..............ambidextrously friendly. Don't need the extended range the bolt offers, on my wooded acreage.

 

[Jwatts8815]

All my bolt actions are LH. Cindy's are RH. The real advantage to a RH bolt is when a southpaw is shooting off a bench. Most of the time I'm hunting with a lever action..............ambidextrously friendly. Don't need the extended range the bolt offers, on my wooded acreage.

I just got my first lever gun a few months back, hoping to take my first white tail with a hand load next year. I really think I’m just gonna lean into RH handed shooting now, like I mentioned, I’m JUST getting to the point where it feels natural. Us southpaws really ARE used to doing things ambidextrous bc it’s a RH world

 

[STIHL]

I once read an article about repetition, and it was like 10 times to get familiar, 100 to become somewhat comfortable with the movement, etc, but it took 10,000 repetitions of doing something exactly the same way to make it muscle memory, and therefore reflex. This is why the military and LE, first responders train and to the exact same thing over and over. It removes thought so under pressure you react.

As the old adage goes “Practice makes perfect”.

 

[Jwatts8815]

I once read an article about repetition, and it was like 10 times to get familiar, 100 to become somewhat comfortable with the movement, etc, but it took 10,000 repetitions of doing something exactly the same way to make it muscle memory, and therefore reflex. This is why the military and LE, first responders train and to the exact same thing over and over. It removes thought so under pressure you react.

As the old adage goes “Practice makes perfect”.

Yes sir, absolutely, I certainly have a long way to go but I am 1000x more comfortable than I was when I started.

 

[Jwatts8815]

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I once read an article about repetition, and it was like 10 times to get familiar, 100 to become somewhat comfortable with the movement, etc, but it took 10,000 repetitions of doing something exactly the same way to make it muscle memory, and therefore reflex. This is why the military and LE, first responders train and to the exact same thing over and over. It removes thought so under pressure you react.

As the old adage goes “Practice makes perfect”.

If we’re being honest, I’m shooting more now than I ever have in my life so I am probably more capable shooting right handed now than I ever was left handed.

 

[Walks]

I was all excited when my buddy Big Bird bought the RCBS 45-270-? a few years back for his U.S. Firearms SAA. He gave me a small tub of bullets to try. I loaded up a few and first of all at .452" they were still a smidge fat for my FA97 and they were too damned long for the cylinder. Why oh why do companies do that? Then I tried the 452424 and they are too long by just a couple thousandths!

I thought well heck, I'll shoot 'em up in the Gen 3 SAA oh wait, that has .456" throats. Goldarn goofy miss matched guns vs bullets, the bane of loader/caster's. Currently I am reduced to shooting a 230 grain RNFP Magma sized to .451" in the FA or an ancient Lyman 454309 odd ball full wadcutter with the domed nose. That rascal sized to .451" ridin' 20.0 grains of 4227 will cut 5 over lapping holes at 25 yards from sand bagged rest. But it sure wasn't what I had in mind. That 45-270 looks like I alway thought I'd want to shoot in a .45 Colt.

Things probably all went to hell when we stopped using real gun powder pushing 255 grain soft lead conical shaped horse killers.

Ya might think about the #452423, the Keith bullet designed originally for the .45 Auto Rim.
N.O.E. makes a Beautiful copy ❤ #453-247-SWC. I have a 5cav that just rains bullets.
Loaded to and crimped in the crimping groove; it's O.A.L. is short enough to fit into even a spaghetti SAA clone. Cast of range scrap/COWW it drops at .454dia - 251grs. Cuts a Clean hole in paper. Over 8.0grs of Unique or 6.0grs of Titegroup. Very accurate

 

[Jwatts8815]

100 rounds 45 acp - Accurate 45-23L - 7 gr Unique
100 rounds 10 mm auto - NOE 402-170-TC - 7.6 Gr power pistol

 

[Jwatts8815]

100 rounds 45 acp - Accurate 45-23L - 7 Gr Unique
100 rounds 10 mm auto - NOE 402-170-TC - 7.6 Gr power pistol

 

[fiver]

the 454423 is supposed to only be 235grs.
more like 240 in the alloys we all use.
i've been somewhat sorta kinda looking for one, but since i have a 225gr RNFP already... LOL it'd have to be one of those can't pass it up for that price things.

 

[Jwatts8815]

the 454423 is supposed to only be 235grs.
more like 240 in the alloys we all use.
i've been somewhat sorta kinda looking for one, but since i have a 225gr RNFP already... LOL it'd have to be one of those can't pass it up for that price things.

Never too many molds haha

 

[fiver]

yeah,,, that's why i got three drawers full.
and a pile of them on the bench with nowhere to put them.
i'm glad i sold off a bunch of them years back, they were starting to double up, and i was getting into the realm of having 2 molds for guns i ain't never gonna have.

or,,, more like 9 plus molds for the 35 cal. revolvers [all 2 of them] not counting the core mold, the half jacket swage die, the full length jacket swage die, the three other swage dies for a wad cutter, a semi wad cutter and a round nose.
then realizing i have 1 rifle mold, and no rifle.
not counting the 9mm stuff.
[shrug]
no idea why.

 

[waco]

All this talk of 45 cast bullets got me going. Just turned the pot on and will cast up some RCBS 45-270-SAA bullets for my Cimeron 1873 clone and my Bishawk.

 

[462]

All this talk of 45 cast bullets got me going. Just turned the pot on and will cast up some RCBS 45-270-SAA bullets for my Cimeron 1873 clone and my Bishawk.

Hey, Walter, how about a picture of that 1873?

 

[waco]

I can’t seem to post a big enough pic.



Walter,

When you post your picture on the thumb nail that appears in the upper left corner it says "insert". Click that and then click on full image.

 

[Ian]

definitely an interesting bullet, just the Lee 230 grain but with deeper Lube grooves apparently. A joy to load

That was how that bullet design was conceived. Another core concept was the rebated nose which is less apt to trip the slide lock on Kimber Commander-length 1911s prematurely as ball ammo can do. I though it funny that others have since come along and changed the lube groove arrangement a couple of times, in one instance it's basically a Lee at four times the price for half the cavities and ten times the quality. If I were to order another, I'd order a new design at .450" with straight wheelweight metal, micro-grooves like tumble lube grooves, and a bevel base.....but that's because I powder coat everything now and size .4515" for all my ACPs.

OAL of 1.265" works great FYI.

 

[Ian]

I finally got a lefty rifle , went to the range , and reached over the top of the scope to run the bolt with my right hand , just like I did all those years with my left hand on the right hand bolts . The struggle is real .

Right for the bench, left for the field. Or just grab that levergun or single shot over there and don't have to think about it.