Accurate 45-270K

[STIHL]

@waco thats a beautiful hand cannon there! Love the case hardened look.

 

[Ian]

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One Mould was converted to Cramer style HP by Erik Ohlen with gas check shank removed from one cavity, casting one HP GC and one HP PB. Second mould casting both cavities flat point, one plain base, one gas check. Two moulds, four cavities, four different styles of hunting bullets.

A lily Rick, seriously a LILY?? Here I thought you were the prince of friggin' darkness all this time. Tell me that was Cindy who took the photo and it was her idea.

 

[Jwatts8815]

As a new caster, I’m finding crimping to be a huge lesson. I started with the FCD but realized very fast that it was sizing/deforming bullets. I have begun using the taper crimp built into the Lee Die but spent the afternoon fighting with my case gauge for 10 mm yesterday but eventually realized I need to pay attention to my gun and not my case gauge. For whatever reason, the case gauge wanted a lot of crimp in order for the round to plunk in it but I realized quickly I had way too much crimp for a round that headspaces on the rim. In the end, I only used my actual gun as a gauge and literally used the taper feature in the seater to only close the belling and bring the rim diameter to .423. I’ve got it figured now

 

[Jwatts8815]

That was how that bullet design was conceived. Another core concept was the rebated nose which is less apt to trip the slide lock on Kimber Commander-length 1911s prematurely as ball ammo can do. I though it funny that others have since come along and changed the lube groove arrangement a couple of times, in one instance it's basically a Lee at four times the price for half the cavities and ten times the quality. If I were to order another, I'd order a new design at .450" with straight wheelweight metal, micro-grooves like tumble lube grooves, and a bevel base.....but that's because I powder coat everything now and size .4515" for all my ACPs.

OAL of 1.265" works great FYI.

I loaded em to 1.265” and put em on top of 7 grains of Unique. Powder coated with Eastwood Chrome. They’re sitting next to some 10mms I cast and loaded this week

 

[Rick]

A lily Rick, seriously a LILY?? Here I thought you were the prince of friggin' darkness all this time. Tell me that was Cindy who took the photo and it was her idea.

hehe . . . Not Cindy, I took that picture years before I met John & Cindy. That is the picture I used on the cover of Glen's book (From Ingot to Target). The flower was actually an accident, I set the molds on a table in the sun under a hedge row that was full of those flowers. As I was taking the pictures that flower fell off and landed right there so I left it.

 

[Winelover]

hehe . . . Not Cindy, I took that picture years before I met John & Cindy. That is the picture I used on the cover of Glen's book (From Ingot to Target). The flower was actually an accident, I set the molds on a table in the sun under a hedge row that was full of those flowers. As I was taking the pictures that flower fell off and landed right there so I left it.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Walks]

As a new caster, I’m finding crimping to be a huge lesson. I started with the FCD but realized very fast that it was sizing/deforming bullets. I have begun using the taper crimp built into the Lee Die but spent the afternoon fighting with my case gauge for 10 mm yesterday but eventually realized I need to pay attention to my gun and not my case gauge. For whatever reason, the case gauge wanted a lot of crimp in order for the round to plunk in it but I realized quickly I had way too much crimp for a round that headspaces on the rim. In the end, I only used my actual gun as a gauge and literally used the taper feature in the seater to only close the belling and bring the rim diameter to .423. I’ve got it figured now

You've discovered what the Old-Timer's knew. We had no case gauges in olden times. Just used the barrel chamber of the Pistol the ammo was to be shot from. Or pulled the cylinder out of a Revolver.
I've also gone so far as to pull the firing pin from a long guns bolt and cycled every round thru a guns action out on My back porch.

 

[Winelover]

J Watts you're on your way.........leaps and bounds ahead of other Pilgrims.

 

[Jwatts8815]

hehe . . . Not Cindy, I took that picture years before I met John & Cindy. That is the picture I used on the cover of Glen's book (From Ingot to Target). The flower was actually an accident, I set the molds on a table in the sun under a hedge row that was full of those flowers. As I was taking the pictures that flower fell off and landed right there so I left

You've discovered what the Old-Timer's knew. We had no case gauges in olden times. Just used the barrel chamber of the Pistol the ammo was to be shot from. Or pulled the cylinder out of a Revolver.
I've also gone so far as to pull the firing pin from a long guns bolt and cycled every round thru a guns action out on My back porc

You've discovered what the Old-Timer's knew. We had no case gauges in olden times. Just used the barrel chamber of the Pistol the ammo was to be shot from. Or pulled the cylinder out of a Revolver.
I've also gone so far as to pull the firing pin from a long guns bolt and cycled every round thru a guns action out on My back porch.

J Watts you're on your way.........leaps and bounds ahead of other Pilgrims.

I appreciate the advice and encouragement guys, I’m thankful to have guys like you to look to for advice, it definitely felt great to work through it and figure it out on my own last night. I was a screaming and yelling at my loading equipment for a couple hours yesterday afternoon haha

 

[waco]

This RCBS mold is one where I have to size before I PC. It drops from the mold at around .454”-.455”
I need .451” to fit the throats on my Ruger Bisley. If I didn’t size first I’d end up with a bullet that measures around .457”+
Too much to be sizing down in my opinion.

 

[Walks]

Waco,
Ya got no problems getting PC to stick to sized bullets ?

 

[waco]

Waco,
Ya got no problems getting PC to stick to sized bullets ?

Not so far. They just need to be clean before you pc them. This die has never had lube in it.

 

[Jwatts8815]

Sundays are gun days!! Shooting the 10mm and 45 acp I loaded, also planning on putting some lead through the Vaquero since it’s been fixed

 

[Jwatts8815]

Great day of shooting, guns are clean. I actually traded some powder to a buddy I was shooting with today and got some Trail Boss so cowboy action loads coming this week for the Vaquero

 

[Jwatts8815]

Great day of shooting, guns are clean. I actually traded some powder to a buddy I was shooting with today and got some Trail Boss so cowboy action loads coming this week for the Vaquero

Looking at my Lyman #4 book right now @CWLONGSHOT and I’d say that bullet is the Accurate copy of the Lyman #452664, it’s the Accurate 45-250D

 

[david s]

I have a RCBS version of this mould and a new (unused) NOE mould of this bullet. I'm still working my way thru previously cast RCBS bullets before breaking out the NOE mould. It's something of a go to bullet for my 45 revolvers. It's been known to be put up in 45 Auto Rim brass and run thru my 625 in 45 ACP as well as the Colt brass. The 45 ACP/Auto Rim doesn't need to give up anything to the larger Colt brass with loads running at the plus p 23000 psi level.

 

[farmboy]

Love that 270 saa mold. Nice shootin bullet. Just size and lube with Ben's Red.

 

[Walks]

That Auto Rim case just screams for it's #452423, the proper Keith bullet.

 

[Creeker]

@waco thats a beautiful hand cannon there! Love the case hardened look.

Waco has all that cool stuff.