750 Yard .308 Win
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RBHarter
West Central AR
Wasn't stepping on toes .
I spent some time with Tim . He's less ........forward in person . More idea context amiable too .
Somebody said "intonation gets lost in text" , I think he writes on the phone too . Maybe he's just a guy you have to get to know to get to know . Then again I've spent most of my life around a 40% population of abrasive people so maybe I just don't let it bother me much .
I've struggled with 30 cal making velocities over 2000 fps .
1 rifle due to throat , leade shape , twist etc just ain't going to happen .
The other a 308 may make it . I haven't really worked it much , it has some quirks that actually make the XCB a prime choice if I can get it fat enough for the leade . Among it's oddities is that 100-168 gr bullets are pick a load stuff the case and get good groups . Break 175 gr , it ain't happening . Yaw , 12" groups , and even when a 180 is shorter than a 150 that shoots great .
In 30-30 I've had zero difficulties reaching jacket speeds but those are much lower than 308 , 06' etc . I have a 7.7 Arisaka but I have to get some issues fixed there before I can even think about it .
I spent some time with Tim . He's less ........forward in person . More idea context amiable too .
Somebody said "intonation gets lost in text" , I think he writes on the phone too . Maybe he's just a guy you have to get to know to get to know . Then again I've spent most of my life around a 40% population of abrasive people so maybe I just don't let it bother me much .
I've struggled with 30 cal making velocities over 2000 fps .
1 rifle due to throat , leade shape , twist etc just ain't going to happen .
The other a 308 may make it . I haven't really worked it much , it has some quirks that actually make the XCB a prime choice if I can get it fat enough for the leade . Among it's oddities is that 100-168 gr bullets are pick a load stuff the case and get good groups . Break 175 gr , it ain't happening . Yaw , 12" groups , and even when a 180 is shorter than a 150 that shoots great .
In 30-30 I've had zero difficulties reaching jacket speeds but those are much lower than 308 , 06' etc . I have a 7.7 Arisaka but I have to get some issues fixed there before I can even think about it .
Tomme boy
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This is not that hard. I feel most of the problems everyone has is they are not using a good alloy. If I can get 2400+ FPS out of lead, anyone can. I had a 308W 1-10 twist Shilen that was awesome. I also had a Rem 1-12" twist that was redone to fit a Savage. That shot almost as good as the Shilen did. With jacketed it did.
L Ross
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I read and read until my eyes were googly. Great stuff. I need to re-read it and really contemplate this dynamic fit concept. My basic method has been to take a fired case from a full power round and size the bullet no smaller than the inside diameter of the neck as measured with my pin gauges. I sure learned that standard FL size dies severely over work case necks.
CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
They darn sure do! Tungsten-carbide pistol size dies are another offender in this realm as well. I will spare you that rant.
L Ross
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I'll see your rant and raise you a ruckus! Darn wasp waisting, brass squishing, statafrattin' things. Wouldn't life be even more grand if the people that use tools could have a little say so in how they are made?
Ian
Notorious member
There IS a solution to your rants and ruckusessses, if'n you are willing to pay:
www.redding-reloading.com
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L Ross
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Do these dies really need to be separate sets for 38 spl. .357 and .44 spl. and .44 mag? As the locals down here are prone so sayin', Uff Dah!There IS a solution to your rants and ruckusessses, if'n you are willing to pay:
Dual Ring Carbide Sizing Die Sets - Redding Reloading Equipment: reloading equipment for rifles, handguns, pistols, revolvers and SAECO bullet casting equipment
Reloading equipment for rifles, handguns, pistols, revolvers, custom dies, bullet casting equipment, powder measuring and weighing equipment, bullet seating dies
fiver
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the instructions to their [redding] carbide dies tell you to only partial length size the cases.
just enough to hold the full length of the bullet.
the 2 ring die sets would do the longer and shorter cases just at 2 different diameters, and for more of the neck length,,, but they will fit multiple guns.
just enough to hold the full length of the bullet.
the 2 ring die sets would do the longer and shorter cases just at 2 different diameters, and for more of the neck length,,, but they will fit multiple guns.
Ian
Notorious member
I think a lot of us have a whole fleet of guns chambered in one caliber but with wide variances, especially the .45 Colt. Being able to use a carbide sizing die and size to the least common denominator would be a huge advantage.
Why it isn't practical to make a tapered carbide sizing ring? Maybe too much surface area to size the whole case without lube? But Redding's dual rings cover a lot of surface area, I just don't get it.
Why it isn't practical to make a tapered carbide sizing ring? Maybe too much surface area to size the whole case without lube? But Redding's dual rings cover a lot of surface area, I just don't get it.
358156 hp
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I went ahead and bought old timey steel die sets with the tapered sizing die. As much as I'd like to have Reddings Dual Ring Sizing Dies, at a hair over $100.00 ea, I'm having difficulty jumping on the band wagon. I also see that Redding has case flaring/expanding dies with Titanium Nitride spuds. They're more expensive than M Dies by a large margin ($40.00), but not I think that Dillon should have been coating their powder funnels with TiN all along.
No different from what my horn thinks.
JWFilips
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I have 2- 8 mm Mausers that I seldom if ever size or even neck size my brass! The fired brass just accepts the fat cast pc coated bullets & I seat them out into the lands so they self seat to the proper COL. Probably have 40 or 50 firings on them. I just decap clean and reload