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462

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
The Servicios Adventuras small pistol primers were delivered this afternoon, and it's possible the stash may outlive me. With a 5% discount they were priced $53.99 delivered.
Brad said:
Comparing the primers made in Argentina with those made in the US is not a fair comparison. What do wages and environmental regulations mean for production cost?
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The same comparison could be made regarding IMR, Hodgdon, Accurate, and Shooters World powders that are made in Canada, Australia, and Czechoslovakia, still we buy them. Sure, my first choice is to buy American, but that is not always possible especially living on a fixed income. :)
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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A little tip on the Bosnian primers. The SR are just a tad larger in diameter than the SP are. The SR fit a lot tighter than Win, CCI SR primers do. So if you have pockets that are getting loose these might let you get a few more loadings on the brass.

I bought 4K SR with the thought of using them on my SP brass so I would not have to keep both on hand. I got 1K of their SP just incase. They too are a firm fit in the 357s and 38s and 380's. But not as firm as the SR.
 
Brad

Brad

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462 said:
The Servicios Adventuras small pistol primers were delivered this afternoon, and it's possible the stash may outlive me. With a 5% discount they were priced $53.99 delivered.

The same comparison could be made regarding IMR, Hodgdon, Accurate, and Shooters World powders that are made in Canada, Australia, and Czechoslovakia, still we buy them. Sure, my first choice is to buy American, but that is not always possible especially living on a fixed income. :)
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Not a comment on but American as much as American may cost more due to certain regulations, etc that exist here but not in other places.

53.99 per K is getting towards a more reasonable price.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Brad said:
Not a comment on but American as much as American may cost more due to certain regulations, etc that exist here but not in other places.

53.99 per K is getting towards a more reasonable price.
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I'm sure lots of the difference is due to regulations/taxes they don't have, but that's getting political so I won't mention it.
 
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Petrol & Powder

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462 said:
Yep, but still twice the price of just three-years-ago.
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See post #71


We'll get there.
In the meantime, inflation has reduced the value of a dollar, so that price may not really be twice the price as three years ago. and maybe closer to 1.5 or 1.75 the adjusted cost of three years ago, I would have to do the math.
AND - the price is determined by what the BUYERS are willing to pay, not what the seller is asking. So that asking price will come down if the sellers cannot move the product at that asking price.
We (collectively) are setting the price of those products.
 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
richhodg66 said:
I bought a pound of H4350 yesterday, pricey, but it supported a brick and mortar shop. Slow burning rifle powders is one place I don't have much on hand, don't use them much anymore.
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I have used IMR 4350 in the 30/30 and 222 Remington with cast with excellent accuracy, but it's hard to get as much in those cases as the manuals say you can.

The one hitch is that it left some unburned/partially burned "logs" strewn about the bore and chamber, which can make chambering the next round tricky once in a while.
 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
richhodg66 said:
Wanting to load a few hundred 6.5 Creedmoor, didn't really have enough good powder for that, now I do. That pound should give me 150 rounds or so.
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It was my ONE powder for the 6.5x55. Not sure how much smaller the CM is, but it should be close enough.
 
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richhodg66

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All the load data for 140 grain bullets seems to say H4350 is what you want. I actually had good luck with IMR 4320 in the Creedmoor, but saving that for other things.
 
Edward R Southgate

Edward R Southgate

Component Hoarder Extraordiniare
I have not found any of the few powders I would currently buy at a price that I would pay. Not seen any in the under $30 range. The H4895 and IMR and Alliant powders that would be of interest are either not available or are in the $50 range per pound. I only have a half pound of H4198 left but only use it in .358 W with the 180 gr Speer bullet so I don't need it enough to pay a premium . There are other cheaper powders that will work good enough . Mid $20's to about $30 per pound is fair on any powder , more is gouging . Primers in the $30-$40 range would be fair , much more would be gouging. 99% of everything I use I already have enough of for at least three lifetimes of shooting so I don't have to buy anything if the price don't suit me. If the prices and supply ever gets back to reasonable I'll probably buy another two or three lifetimes worth , I have two sons that shoot so why not. I am most assuredly a hoarder.
 
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Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
If the 6.5 Creedmore is anything like the 6.5x55, try Reloder 22. Hands down #1 powder with 140s.
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
If you run 6.5CM in a 6.5×50 Arisaka sizer it is a no trim , half stroke , lube , full length stroke , flatten out the bulge at the top of the extractor groove . Viola' 6.5 Japanese.

The CM is a necked up 250/3000 with the 22-250 shoulder .
 
L Ross

L Ross

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RBHarter said:
If you run 6.5CM in a 6.5×50 Arisaka sizer it is a no trim , half stroke , lube , full length stroke , flatten out the bulge at the top of the extractor groove . Viola' 6.5 Japanese.

The CM is a necked up 250/3000 with the 22-250 shoulder .
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The 6.5 sounds like a splendid little practical cartridge. Can it do anything a 6.5x55, a .260 Remington, a .257 Roberts, a .270, or a 7x57 cannot do? I'm not being facetious either. There must be some practical advantage for it to have become a run away best seller. Can it be necked down to .250 Savage? After all a lot of shooters just leave their fired brass laying around. Could a Savage Model 99 be rechambered and rebored or rebarrelled to 6.5 CM?
 
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