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CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Standard for county SO? Forest green wool pants and khaki tan (aka, target tan) wool gabardine shirt? Back in 1975, the pants were $47.00 and the shirt $25 at Harris & Frank.
Yessir.
Oh my agency eventually banned them. It all works out okay now that society has become civilized and people simply comply with their police and allow the judicial system to handle their grievances.
Oh, RIGHT. It's all unicorns & rainbows these days.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Saps, blackjacks and sap gloves were never authorized by Division during my time. Back in the old days when all Troppers were mounted horseback, they had lead loaded riding crops. They were taken way after a few people kind of died I'm told. Of course back then all Troopers were 6 foot plus and about 3/4 mountain lion. Midgets like me never would have made the cut. When I came on the issue flashlight was a 6 D cell plastic affair that was legendary for exploding into 15 pieces if you dropped on the floor, much less if you "encouraged" someone to straighten up and play nice. A lot of guys had saps, blackjacks, etc and that was overlooked. The portable radios (walkie-talkies) back then were big mothers the size of a egg carton and weighing a good 2-3 lbs. They had a lovely heavy leather hand strap. I understand some people found them very handy with recalcitrant types. I never tried it myself, lotsa memos and demands for payment for damaged Division property if you messed one up.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Gord nailed his first buck this AM. 9 pointer. He let the bigger one go as it was on the other side of our fence on the neighbors land. 1 shot from the 303 #1 SMLE in the neck and lengthwise into the chest. Well done!
 

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L Ross

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I used mine exactly once in a street brawl where my senior partner, (who was an awesome street fighter), and I got in a melee between an out of town biker gang and a bunch of our local hoodlums on the hoodlums turf. We were attempting to make arrests. I lost my badge, my 8 point hat, my clip on tie, and my baton in about a 10" of fresh snow.

As you'd cuff one, from one or the other contingent, his buddies would jump you and attempt to free your prisoner. It wasn't going well for the bad guys, until we ran out of cuffs. Then the best course of action was to more seriously impair the mobility of the arrestee. That got harder after I lost the baton. Daddy's little helper to the rescue. Body shots only, but I can attest that striking a joint or spine rendered instant impairment and capitulation. I should have been cold cocked with the bottom of a two piece pool cue from behind but my partner intervened.

I think we ended up piling the four with cuffs on atop of four others arrested but otherwise unrestrained. When we called in saying we needed more cuffs you could hear the four barrels howling with the air cleaner covers inverted.

A local business man found my badge while shoveling snow, with part of my uniform shirt still attached, and turned it in to the Dept. I actually enjoyed those fracases and got paid to participate. I was only injured a few times and mostly minorly at that. I always attributed that to the cost of doing business. I doubt I have enough ass in my britches these days to support my attitude.
 

L Ross

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Saps, blackjacks and sap gloves were never authorized by Division during my time. Back in the old days when all Troppers were mounted horseback, they had lead loaded riding crops. They were taken way after a few people kind of died I'm told. Of course back then all Troopers were 6 foot plus and about 3/4 mountain lion. Midgets like me never would have made the cut. When I came on the issue flashlight was a 6 D cell plastic affair that was legendary for exploding into 15 pieces if you dropped on the floor, much less if you "encouraged" someone to straighten up and play nice. A lot of guys had saps, blackjacks, etc and that was overlooked. The portable radios (walkie-talkies) back then were big mothers the size of a egg carton and weighing a good 2-3 lbs. They had a lovely heavy leather hand strap. I understand some people found them very handy with recalcitrant types. I never tried it myself, lotsa memos and demands for payment for damaged Division property if you messed one up.
Hahahaha! $1,600 bucks for a Motorola. Dents in Crown Vic hoods went virtually unnoticed.;)
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Bean counters and radio techs in .gov postings are quite twitchy about anything comms-related. It seems to be a universal trait.

In 28 years, I never had to strike anyone with my batons--straight stick or expandable PR-24. There were a few times (in bar fight scenarios) that I got attackers off of me with shoves from the straight stick, and the recipients opted out after one application per customer. We got the expandable PR-24s about midway through my career, and baton use-of-force memos dwindled almost immediately. When you snapped those extensions into place, their detents locking sounded a whole lot like an 870 being racked. VERY disincentivizing to the average ne'er-do-well or recalcitrant client.
 

JWFilips

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Freezing the containers of Turkey stock today & Since the weather is cold windy and we have our first few inches of snow on the ground, I decided to take one of the containers of stock and make a soup out of the rest of the left over turkey in the refridge.
Snow had brought down the parsley and thyme plants but I was able to find what I needed under the snow for the soup!
Supper was two bowls of soup with wide egg noodles each for my wife and I! Soup hits the spot of a winter like day
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Bean counters and radio techs in .gov postings are quite twitchy about anything comms-related. It seems to be a universal trait.

In 28 years, I never had to strike anyone with my batons--straight stick or expandable PR-24. There were a few times (in bar fight scenarios) that I got attackers off of me with shoves from the straight stick, and the recipients opted out after one application per customer. We got the expandable PR-24s about midway through my career, and baton use-of-force memos dwindled almost immediately. When you snapped those extensions into place, their detents locking sounded a whole lot like an 870 being racked. VERY disincentivizing to the average ne'er-do-well or recalcitrant client.
As a City Police Reserve, we were issued a ASP (expandable Baton) after training/certification. I never needed to use it and I recall that model did not offer a dis-incentivizing sound when it was expanded. While I never used my flashlight, many of my fellow Reserves preferred using the flashlight for subject control. One time, at a DJ dance (Rap music), there was a domestic going on in the parking lot, one of them got in a car, backed up into another car and then took off. While I wrote down the plate # and called for backup, My partner was running along side the fleeing car, hitting it with his flashlight, then throwing the flashlight at the car after it left the parking lot.
Good Times!
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Pulled out/down and cleaned my muzzle loaders for the upcoming season.
Second year in a row now, the orifice in my breech plug was rusted closed. I have it soaking and should get it to clear.

I also found one of the scopes had a broken strada. SO.... I pulled it. Its a Redfield 2 3/4 wide field. My pops old scope. I SURE, SURE, hope it can be repaired. :sigh:

As these two rifles are the same H&R side kick. I mounted two Aimpoint 2000 red dots on them. I also line sighted them to get them on paper.

Gonna site with my Maxi Balls.

CW
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
i guess the move it around in circles until it finds a home thing has started already.
i re-hung the door to the brass/bullet/wads and stuff room so it didn't try to bind when closed, then promptly moved a shelf over slightly so it would open further, and stay open. [i dunno, but it's fixed]
then took some stuff back up to the reloading room, and brought some other stuff back down again.

highlight of my day was going to the store for some orange juice and them still not having the kind i like.
 

JWFilips

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CW,
If you are using real "Black Powder" ...Soap and water is the best solvent for Black Powder!
Soap & water wash & scrub with a "hot" water rinse! Then sheep fat and beeswax when the barrel is hot dried from the hot water!
Never any corrosion!
Jim
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Alternately if you want to use 20th century cleaners:
Balistol 1 part to 2 parts water!....Then a hot water rinse
Followed by dry patches and a 100% Balistol Soaked patch!
(The Germans figured this one out)
 

Ian

Notorious member
Bottled two batches of wine and racked one other, still waiting one batch from 7/25 to stop bubbling. Then I fixed a 6.5mm Lyman mould that had the chronic 1.5 thousandths out of round problem due to cherry torque and cast some bullets with it and powder coated a big handfull to try out in my Swedes. Going to see what can be done with and without a gas check. I only have about half a box of checks left so it might be time to try my hand at making a checkmaker.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
CW,
If you are using real "Black Powder" ...Soap and water is the best solvent for Black Powder!
Soap & water wash & scrub with a "hot" water rinse! Then sheep fat and beeswax when the barrel is hot dried from the hot water!
Never any corrosion!
Jim
I solved my barrel corrosion problems by keeping the breech plugs out. But this was inside the tiny flash hole of the breech plug.
I have leather bags I tie to the trigger guard so plug stays with gun. I do clean as well as I can but two years now... This hole rusts shut.

No not pure BP. Pyrodex. I have so many bottles.

CW