Need powder recommendations

[fiver]

I solved that problem.
everything but the last batch of simple lube, and the moly complex, went into a big pot.
I still have like 4 here.
if your just looking to buy BAC or carnuba blue would be fair choices, you have to burn one or two into the berm before group shooting but they do work well after that.

 

[Will]

I have some tubes of bac and 50/50 from Lars. I also have the Lyman orange and black lube that came with the sizer.

 

[Ian]

This is gonna sound weird, but if you mix the lyman orange and black together, add a little beeswax and soften it with some plain-jane, buttery (not sticky/stringy) low-temp lithium chassis grease you'd have a good lube. Keep the Alox out of it.

 

[KHornet]

I haven't played with higher vols in cast for 30 cals in a number of years. However when I was in my 20's and was a bit vol happy, an old time gunsmith/hand loader advised me to look at jacketed starting loads, and with powders like 4895, 3031, 4350, 4831 etc. Back then, Hogden was
selling surplus 4831 and BLC-2 for under a buck a pound, and then I could afford 10-15 lbs of either, and shot a lot of it. I was then only interested
in getting maybe 2200 max out of an 06, and did so with both 4831 and BLC-2, with decent accuracy from a pre64 M-70 Win. I was stationed just
45 mi from Hogden at the time.

Back then if I stayed under 1 1/2" at 100 I was quite satisfied, and was tickled silly when I got an occasional MOA group. I didn't weigh cast bullets back then, just went with visual. Back then I used a home brewed lube of Bees Wax, Vasoline, Crisco, and graphite. Messy but it worked well and was cheap. When I started using shotgun/pistol powders and vols in the 1600-1800 range, it was obviously cheaper (did I mention I am cheap), was accurate etc. Now that Waco has peaked my interest again in vols above 2000 in 308, I will start using the advice of that old gunsmith/reloader in Topeka. Would like to think with an additional 50 years of experience in reloading, I might be able to do better than when I was in my 20's.

Paul

 

[fiver]

actually a little white lith gets sucked up in that mix like it wants to go in there.
30-35% is more than plenty.
that's also bordering on my moly complex lube except the lyman moly is much finer than the stuff I'm using.

 

[Will]

KHornet I look forward to seeing your results and learning some along your venture.

I may try making the lube out of the old Lyman tubes I have. They have been setting in there for about 5 years.

Any recommendations on which grease to add? And approximate proportions of grease and bwax to add?

And I might add that I realize I have created a horrible thread drift here.

 

[waco]

I'm glad to see a few more gaining a bit of interest in the higher speed 308 stuff. More people to bounce ideas and results off of. Go for it guys!

 

[Ian]

And I might add that I realize I have created a horrible thread drift here.

It's your thread, you take it wherever it needs to go. Besides, if you don't drift it, be assured we will!

 

[Brad]

Horrible? This is minor drift at best.

When fiver posts a wacky music video we have horrible drift.

 

[waco]

I had Brad run some numbers for me on QL
I want to revisit the 312299
I'll be testing H4350, IMR4831, and possibly RX19 if I can talk my brother out of some.

 

[waco]

 

[fiver]

well I just happen to be listening to neon hitch.
but I take requests.

 

[Brad]

Nope, more like this.....

 

[fiver]

that will probably come later, the race from las vegas is on.
I listen to a ton of trap, and chill step, that is just old school D&B type stuff.
it's great for casting too because it just rolls around the back of your head and keeps a perfect rhythm.

 

[Ian]

I last few times I cast it was Deadmou5 and AVB, but there's a standing wave in the room at about 110 hz that drives me and everyone in the rest of the house nuts and neither the crossovers nor the EQ will touch it. I screwed around and never got a Rives PARC while they were still in business, so I'll have to brush up on my electronics again one day and build something that will cut out about a 5 Hz window around 110 but not take out 115-120 from the top end of the sub channel.

 

[fiver]

I just picked up 5 years of mau by deadmau5.
I manage to get in at least 4 hours of music a day without even trying,,,, not radio music.
I can't stand the loud mixed compressed music they have on the air now days.

 

[Brad]

I'm kinda shocked you get anything there but country.

My baby left me and I runned my dog over so my pickup truck.....

 

[35 shooter]

imr4350 is a good one in .308 and 35 whelen to try for speed with.
In my .308 with 23.5" bbl. 1/12 twist 44.5 gr. behind a 30xcb bullet gave 2450 fps. and good acuracy.
I used both Ben's Red and BLL. lube with the same load and same results for both lubes. I started at 40 gr. and worked up in whole and half grains.
I don't have the chrony nos. for the lighter loads...but i do have my accuracy notes.

These are just 5 shot groups @ 110 yds.
1. 40 gr. 2.688"
2. 41 gr. 1.800"
3. 41.5 gr. 1.285"
4. 40.5" gr. 1.882"
5. 42 gr. 2.165"
6. 43.5 gr. 1.415"
7. 43 gr. 2.690"
8. 44.5 gr. 1.042"...1.367"....996"
44.5 gr. is what i settled on @ 2450 fps. chronoed. As you can see accuracy went in and out as i came up the ladder. The bullets were ht'd @ 465* for 1 hr. and water dropped. They hit 27 bhn in 3 to 5 days.

These loads were all shot with unweighed visual culled bullets. Weighed bullets will easily break an inch and even cloverleaf at 110 yds. with the 44.5 gr. load.
I tried aa 4350, but it didn't work in my rifle, but it's worth a try too...some rifles seem to prefer one brand of powder over another sometimes in my experience.

You can go quite a bit hotter on the loads for more speed, but you have to all the t's crossed and i's dotted when you pass about 2500 fps. lol.

I used a lee hand press and standard loading procedures for these loads with the bullets lightly engraving the lands....so it really can be "just that easy".

 

[waco]

I have a pound, maybe a bit more of IMR4350
I just bought 8lbs of H4350 so I'll start there.

 

[fiver]

we got 2 radio stations the am one and the fm one.
same station.
I pay the satellite radio company money.
the great thing is I get no interference trying to dial in a station for the receiver..
I rigged in an antenna and power source in the garage and play it over the JVC..

I KNEW 35 shooter had some data for the 30 cal xcb bullet.
he just keeps too quiet about things.